The 14T mod is king on the monster

Started by WetDuc, February 06, 2010, 03:48:46 PM

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WetDuc

Almost everything my 695 ever needed.  If you're thinking about doing it, do it.  If you've done it, I guess you know where I'm coming from (I just put mine on yesterday and did 100miles today).  My friend's 696 14T did not make as much a difference as it did on my bike.  His is better, mine is butter.  That is all.  Nothing follows.
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hunduc

plan to do this as soon as february passes... starting to get tired of the snow and cold... wanna ride...

Duck-Stew

So long as the chain doesn't rub the crap out of the front of the swingarm:

I have to agree that 'bang-for-the-buck' the 14T mod is indeed king.
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WetDuc

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Quote from: Duck-Stew on February 07, 2010, 06:42:30 AM
So long as the chain doesn't rub the crap out of the front of the swingarm:

I have to agree that 'bang-for-the-buck' the 14T mod is indeed king.
How might one go about avoiding the over-rubbing?  I noticed a very subtle slight vibration today on the long (very cold) ride.  Seems to be a speed related thing, becoming more obvious at higher speeds.  I wonder if this might be the rubbage?
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Duck-Stew

Quote from: iamhybris on February 07, 2010, 05:22:23 PM
How might one go about avoiding the over-rubbing?  I noticed a very subtle slight vibration today on the long (very cold) ride.  Seems to be a speed related thing, becoming more obvious at higher speeds.  I wonder if this might be the rubbage?

A driveline vibration could be a chain that's too tight and has a tight spot in it.  Check your chain tension at several different locations.  If you do have a tight spot in the chain.  Adjust tension at *that* spot and then save your $ to replace the chain and sprockets.
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WetDuc

I thought that was the reason as well.
Everything is stock in that dept of the bike.
I'll check it out later today.

It sure is nice to be able to go slow in 1st gear and not get continual whiplash from the bike.
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cyrus buelton

Isn't going up teeth in the back "easier" on the bike then the 14T mod?

obviously it is pricier, but figured it was better for the bike.
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duccarlos

Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 08, 2010, 05:20:44 AM
Isn't going up teeth in the back "easier" on the bike then the 14T mod?

obviously it is pricier, but figured it was better for the bike.

How so? Enlighten us.
Quote from: polivo on November 16, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
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WetDuc

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Yea, I'd say that swapping the 14T on the bike was ridic easy.  Taking off the rear sprocket would definitely be more work.  The power is so much smoother and predictable, yet more responsive.  A big improvement. 
Would doing the rear sprocket be better?  I can't really definitively see how...
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duccarlos

If you're replacing or resizing the chain along with the sprocket, it should be no different. If you're using the same length chain, then you might have the rubbing of the swing arm.
Quote from: polivo on November 16, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
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ID_DUC_MON

I had to get rid of mine. sure it made for nice strong launches and in-town stuff but made it really high in the RPMs when traveling 80+ especially for longer stretches of road.

DesmoReynoso

Quote from: ID_DUC_MON on February 08, 2010, 09:49:16 AM
I had to get rid of mine. sure it made for nice strong launches and in-town stuff but made it really high in the RPMs when traveling 80+ especially for longer stretches of road.

Thats the only reason Ive been holding off on doing it to mine. Do you think going up 1 on  the back would make a difference in-town traffic but not over rev the engine so much above 80mph?

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COP TZR

Quote from: preynoso on February 08, 2010, 02:32:33 PM
Thats the only reason Ive been holding off on doing it to mine. Do you think going up 1 on  the back would make a difference in-town traffic but not over rev the engine so much above 80mph?




That's the route I'm going.  1 up on the rear to 42T.  I know it won't make much of a difference as dropping 1 down on the front, but I'm sure it will make a small difference and I can still enjoy long road trips without high revs.   [wine]

Teutonics

Quote from: COP TZR on February 08, 2010, 03:02:14 PMThat's the route I'm going.  1 up on the rear to 42T.  I know it won't make much of a difference as dropping 1 down on the front, but I'm sure it will make a small difference and I can still enjoy long road trips without high revs.   [wine]
Not to be the downer, but I don't think you would notice a difference going just one tooth up in the rear.  I went +2 in the rear, and it wasn't much difference, so ended up with both -1/+2 front/rear. 

I'm sure it differs by model, but only one tooth change in the rear is negligible on any bike.
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COP TZR

Quote from: Teutonics on February 11, 2010, 06:02:18 AM
Not to be the downer, but I don't think you would notice a difference going just one tooth up in the rear.  I went +2 in the rear, and it wasn't much difference, so ended up with both -1/+2 front/rear. 

I'm sure it differs by model, but only one tooth change in the rear is negligible on any bike.

trial and error I guess.  My bike has a 5spd gearbox and I want it to be able to run long distances without buzzing the revs.  Another user did the same by going 1 up on the rear and said noticed a difference.  Guess I'll have to wait till riding season to see.