why not the 750?

[SacDuc]

Has anyone mentioned that, officially speaking, the coolest monster ever is a 750?

http://www.flightcycles.com/flightcycles/HotrodM750/Originals/Hotrod_3317.jpg

Also, I just got rid of my 750 today.   :'(  I will now be riding the wife's '05 620. I would describe the 620 as a bit more zippy. It will certainly get you where you want to go just as fast as the 750. But the 750 seems to pull better/smoother out of corners. Either more torque or the power just comes on smoother or something. The braking on both is fantastic. All in all I like the 750 better. This could be just my perception but the weight seemed lower and the bike just more well balanced over all. Plus I like minimal things and having a carbie with no red key was a plus in my book.

I miss my bike already. Luckily, the genius that built that bike pictured above will fix her up and find a good home for her.

sac

[Supero100]

I've only seen Stu's with a dry clutch

Here's a link to my former 1999 m750. Not much stock on that bike. I never should have sold it. Terrible terrible mistake.

Awesome bike. It was carbed and gave up some hp to the i.e. models but it just sounded MEAN

http://i47.tinypic.com/978nqx.jpg

[The Bacon Junkie]

sorry I must've gotten some wires crossed.

wasn't trying to offend anyone, only trying to help a friend and clearly I was misinformed (or mis-remembered).



thanks
andy

I, for one, wasn't offended.... 

I just get really really really excited about my bike and riding it!   

I hope my enthusiasm helps with your decision...   

Junkie

[Duck-Stew]

To ato memphis: NO Monster 750s ever came with a dry clutch.

In a drag-race between a 620 & a 750, it would be really close, but as posted already, a 750 has more drive at lower rpm so more torque.

I'm currently assembling 2 750's with 900 'V' cams and valves.  Both engines will be running the Mahle 799cc kit so the comparison to a 748cc motor won't be direct, but it should be fun!!!

[junior varsity]

a) I stand corrected. Somebody update the DucatiTech page then.

b) That will be neat to see - is the 750(748) a different stroke than the 800(803)?

edit: I see its 61.5 and 66. Are those 91mm pistons?

[Duck-Stew]

Both engines are 61.5mm stroke (stock 750 crank) and 91mm overbore pistons.  Should still have a good mid-range but have a much stronger hit from 5K up! 

I'm confident this will yield a long, strong pull through the rpm band...  Yummy....  Flat torque curve...

One bike is EFI, the 2nd will be sporting 40mm Dell-Orto's.

[memonstro]

My first Duc was a 1999 M750 Dark. I bought that bike new a kept it for 8 years. I loved that bike. I wish I could have hung onto it , but it got traded in on my Sport.
I had changed alot on the Monster over the years, pipes, clip-ons...etc. Great running motorcycle.

[Scottish]

I know the 750's are pretty bullet proof. I was not impressed with the power though. I used to ride with a buddy with one and I could toy with him on my 695, I could pull him at will whenever I wanted.  I'd go for a 900.

[junior varsity]

Perhaps friend was a bit of a weenie?

The newer fuelies, like the 695, have excellent fuelings and such so that has made a big difference. The 696's power is gobs more than the close-in-displacement 600, 620, etc.

[Scottish]

Perhaps friend was a bit of a weenie?

The newer fuelies, like the 695, have excellent fuelings and such so that has made a big difference. The 696's power is gobs more than the close-in-displacement 600, 620, etc.

perhaps, I also have the full Termi set-up with ecu and he was a stocker. I was also shocked by the difference between a 620 and my 695, would have believed the power difference would be so apparrent. Of course even 7hp is a 10% gain.

[junior varsity]

when you have only a few apples, an extra is more noticeable. If you have an orchard, a few extra apples isn't as meaningful.

[Scottish]

This is true. 

[Duck-Stew]

I know the 750's are pretty bullet proof. I was not impressed with the power though. I used to ride with a buddy with one and I could toy with him on my 695, I could pull him at will whenever I wanted.  I'd go for a 900.

A 620 is about as powerful as a 750 (620 has more high-end power, 750 has more mid-range but it's about a wash).  695's, however... MUCH mo' betta' than a stock 620 or a stock 750.  696's are awesome little motors in my book...

I'm kinda waiting to find one cheap and slap some 39mm FCR's on it. 

[mdriver]

I was going to say I liked the 750 as well, but in this specific regard, you lost me. Foot controls are identical. hand controls are essentially the same as well.

Thats why I said they feel bigger. I'm not totally convinced they actually were. My 750 has a heavy clutch pull, heavier then any other I've come across. The 695 has a clutch that feels like pudding in comparison.  I prefer the 750.

I would like to believe the foot controls are the same. Looking at them side to side I thought they were. But at the very least the one I rode could only be shifted if I slid my foot about an inch farther back on the peg then I usually do. Felt a similar thing with the rear brake lever.

Overall the 695 I rode felt like it was a monster set up specifically for a small rider. Perhaps it was. 

[Duck-Stew]

I put 695 rearsets directly onto a 2001 750 yesterday.  That's one of the parts that hasn't changed from 1993-2008.

Perhaps the 695 you rode had the low-seat?  That'll change the whole feel of the bike for sure....