why not the 750?

[Privateer]

a buddy of mine was looking at buying a 750 the other day and I suggested not to but I couldn't quantify it for him. 
Other than the 620 making basically the same HP and having better brakes I didn't have any facts for him.

I thought the subject had come up here, I distinctly remember reading someone saying "they don't go very well, and they don't stop very well" but I couldn't find it while searching.


Are they any quantifiable reason to not buy one or am I just mis-remembering and maligning a fine bike?

[The Bacon Junkie]

I LOVE my '99 M750.  I've ridden friends' 620s and a 696, but I just didn't get the same feeling from them. Sure the 696 was quicker, but it just didn't feel as powerful, for some reason.  

My bike just seems more raw, more visceral, and just meaner.

Like you said, it's not a quantifiable, tangible thing, just a feeling.

  I upgraded my front rotor to a BrakeTech ductile iron rotor (about $300) and my front forks from the Paiolis to a set of Showas off of a '97 M900 (about $200). They have RaceTech goldvalves installed.  These mods were done around 40,000 miles.  The more I ride her, the better she gets... 

just my $0.02   

[muskrat]

My wife started on a 750 and I will say they are good bikes all around.  I also started on a 620 and felt it to be a little more potent IMO.  We've moved up so if the price is right and she feels good jump on it.  I've seen the prices on both be very reasonable, in fact downright cheap at times.  Oh, they both stopped very well I thought.

[mdriver]

I'm currently on a 750 and I've ridden it back to back with a 695. Overall the 750 has always felt like a bigger bike without feeling heavier. If that makes any sense. Specifically the hand/foot controls feel bigger on the 750 and the engine has more torque  As far as the brakes go I always thought the 620 and 750 came with the same gold 4 piston calipers found on the older superbikes and the 695 came with the crappy black calipers.

Like Bacon Junkie stated my 750 has always felt meaner then the others.

I'm also of the opinion that all of these bikes are faster then what we need for the street.

[Raux]

didn't the 750 come standard with oil coolers and the 6xx bikes didn't?

[JEFF_H]

we had a 02 M620 and a 97 M750 at the same time.
620 is now gone.
peak hp may have been similar, but the extra torque made the 750 more fun to ride.
In fact if i had to get rid of either the current M900 or M750...i might be tempted to get rid of the 900 first.
the 750 has been lightened a bit, and it is so fun to throw around on at twisty road

[Howie]

Don't stop well?  The monster 750 is still in the MCN top ten for shortest stopping distance,  2001 and 2002 750s have the same calipers and rotors as the 900s. 

[Javamoose]

Don't stop well?  The monster 750 is still in the MCN top ten for shortest stopping distance,  2001 and 2002 750s have the same calipers and rotors as the 900s. 

I'll second that, I've had to panic stop my '00 750 and it'll try to rip your eyes out if you brake hard.

Also, I'll chime in, I've ridden a much newer 620 for about two weeks.  I prefer my 750. 

[redxblack]

I've only ridden a 750 so I have no comparison point. I've never had any issue stopping (or starting for that matter). I am at my limits in riding it long before the bike is at its limit.

[junior varsity]

Specifically the hand/foot controls feel bigger on the 750 and the engine has more torque 

I was going to say I liked the 750 as well, but in this specific regard, you lost me. Foot controls are identical. hand controls are essentially the same as well.

[The Bacon Junkie]

More to add after yesterday's ride....   The only time my 750 couldn't hang with the M900 was coming off the line from a stoplight in the middle of nowhere.  Being lighter, I'm able to brake a little later, carry a tad more corner speed, and get on the throttle a bit earlier for the exit.  With her carbon Termi high mounts, the sounds she makes when you ride her hard....... Whooooo.    So you all can get a taste...



 

[Privateer]

sorry I must've gotten some wires crossed.

wasn't trying to offend anyone, only trying to help a friend and clearly I was misinformed (or mis-remembered).



thanks
andy

[junior varsity]

The 750 originally came with a dry clutch, making it extra extra cool. Uses same cams as M900 I believe, so you can put in go fast(er) cams in.

An issue is a 900 that has 750 heads (W stamped heads) (which don't flow as well as the 900 heads - V stamped heads). I don't know of any instances in which 900 (V stamped) heads have been put on a 750, but that would be interesting to see.

Paging Brad Black & Chris K.

[JEFF_H]

The 750 originally came with a dry clutch, making it extra extra cool. U

i've never seen a dry cluch on a 750 (except for Stu's)
first 750 in the US was the 97 M750.
definitely wet clutch

[junior varsity]

Hmm... I'm pretty sure I've see another... "less custom" 750... with dry clutch than Stu's, but without doing any research to back that up, I'll just post up Chris's FAQ's that list that some did come with it:

http://www.ducatitech.com/2v/monster_faq.html

I'm not sure if it happened when the M750 came about, but some years definitely share the dry clutch of it's 904cc big brother. Also, all the dry clutches of 1990s showroom Ducatis are interchangeable. The "750" Ducatis actually displace 748cc.