Driving in the Snow

metallimonster · February 17, 2010, 03:15:44 AM

No it won't but it sure will make me feel better, in fact I am.

Ranting on it here helps me not go ballistic and end up in jail for assault.

ryandalling · February 17, 2010, 03:16:15 AM

I took a snow and ice driving course a few years back... Toyota Camry with an outrigger setup with wheels on it... then an instructor in the back seat can control which wheels have traction and how much traction via a remote in his hands... then we drove around a race track.... faster and faster... being thrown into spins and trying to stop before hitting cones... it was super fun. I know that I became a better snow driver because of it.... but it just means I go a lot slower on the snow... and I know my limitations. Oh... and I know how much fun it is to throw yourself into a spin and try to steer out of it.

But I agree people in general suck at driving in the snow. Even myself... I just mitigate it by adjusting to the conditions.

ducpainter · February 17, 2010, 03:21:09 AM

Quote from: metallimonster on February 17, 2010, 03:15:44 AM
No it won't but it sure will make me feel better, in fact I am.

Ranting on it here helps me not go ballistic and end up in jail for assault.

Relax...

I wasn't referring to you specifically.

metallimonster · February 17, 2010, 03:29:09 AM

Quote from: ducpainter on February 17, 2010, 03:21:09 AM
Relax...

I wasn't referring to you specifically.

Oh I wasn't taking it personally just stating that it actually does make me feel better. One of the reasons I love being a part of this place.

KnightofNi · February 17, 2010, 04:46:25 AM

no matter where you go you will have somone complaining that the drivers suck in (insert weather condition here)

people either go too fast, or way too slow.

and sometimes you have a jackass on a motorcycle riding through it while someone in one of those awd suvs is crying because they are so scared to drive.

sbrguy · February 17, 2010, 05:10:45 AM

remember 4wd awd is not magic it only pushes your screw up point to a faster speed so that when you finally do screw up you are now going faster and you possibly can kill more peoplle. congratulations

but seriously, 4wd does not help in these conditions.

1. when you are braking does not help you stop any faster
2. when you are coasting and not on the gas, 4wd does nothing at this point. i think this is where most people screw up, they don't realize that fif you are turning and not on the gas you are no different than a rear wd car at that point.

4wd only helps you Not get stuck, meaning when you start from a stop you may not get as stuck or stuck as someone else and when you have momentum it may help you not get stuck in teh first place since you have 2 extra tires with a pushing motion. but that is about it.

ice is ice, regular rubber on ice no matter how much 4wd you have isn't helping worth a damn once you lose traction and are skidding.

cyrus buelton · February 17, 2010, 05:27:11 AM

Quote from: ryandalling on February 17, 2010, 03:16:15 AM
I took a snow and ice driving course a few years back... Toyota Camry with an outrigger setup with wheels on it... then an instructor in the back seat can control which wheels have traction and how much traction via a remote in his hands... then we drove around a race track.... faster and faster... being thrown into spins and trying to stop before hitting cones... it was super fun. I know that I became a better snow driver because of it.... but it just means I go a lot slower on the snow... and I know my limitations. Oh... and I know how much fun it is to throw yourself into a spin and try to steer out of it.

But I agree people in general suck at driving in the snow. Even myself... I just mitigate it by adjusting to the conditions.

I've always wanted to take one of these classes when I have been in CO skiing, but never wanted to give up a day of riding to take one. It has been a few years since I have been out there, but there used to be one in Steamboat. Looked fun as hell.

Quote from: ducpainter on February 17, 2010, 03:21:09 AM
Relax...

I wasn't referring to you specifically.

He was probably referring to me who started the post.

Quote from: sbrguy on February 17, 2010, 05:10:45 AM
remember 4wd awd is not magic it only pushes your screw up point to a faster speed so that when you finally do screw up you are now going faster and you possibly can kill more peoplle. congratulations

but seriously, 4wd does not help in these conditions.

1. when you are braking does not help you stop any faster
2. when you are coasting and not on the gas, 4wd does nothing at this point. i think this is where most people screw up, they don't realize that fif you are turning and not on the gas you are no different than a rear wd car at that point.

4wd only helps you Not get stuck, meaning when you start from a stop you may not get as stuck or stuck as someone else and when you have momentum it may help you not get stuck in teh first place since you have 2 extra tires with a pushing motion. but that is about it.

ice is ice, regular rubber on ice no matter how much 4wd you have isn't helping worth a damn once you lose traction and are skidding.

Exactly.

Scooter Montgomery · February 17, 2010, 05:57:33 AM

Anybody in New England interested in learning how to drive on snow and ice this coming Sunday there is a 4 hour 44 minute endurance ice race on Sabattus Pond staring at 10 am with the New Meadows Ice Racing Assocation. My buddy that I race with is going to Florida today so I get to do the whole race as the solo driver, oh yeah!

Duck-Stew · February 17, 2010, 06:07:14 AM

My last winter driving was 11 years ago in Detroit w/a RWD S-10 p/u with an automatic. I went out bowling w/my G/F in 11 inches of un-plowed snow w/o a problem (and we had 14" by the time we were done bowling).

Driving in the snow is an art learned in parking lots before they plow and taking your time. People don't do either, so no matter what they drive...they end up in the ditch or spinning their wheels like that'll help out any...

acalles · February 17, 2010, 06:08:25 AM

the first few storms are bad, by this time of the year most people are already up to speed.

but, we have lots of idiots from 3 different places that move here and don't have a clue how to drive.

1 the southern californian. whoa dude, this snow is totally awesome, I've got to be the first one to the ski basin, so let me drive my subaru too fast and slide off the road. whoaa awesome.

2 the texan. I glad done got me this biggass truck, 2" of snow! I'm sure glad I got me these chains to tear up the road with! then I'm gonna go drive around at 4 MPH cause I don't want to end up like that guy in that sooobarruuu..

3 the mexicans. WTF IS THIS WHITE SHIT! is ok bro, I've got tires 3' wide on my rear wheel drive trucka. is bueno I'll just drive like a total burro, OMG why isn't my trucka stopping! oh god I'm sliding threw the intersection in a highly uncontrollable manner, whoops, hit that parked car, I'll just drive away like no one saw me, it doesn't matter, I stoled this license plate from a kia and I don't have a license or insurance anyways.

cyrus buelton · February 17, 2010, 06:15:52 AM

I like the morons that go play in parking lots when they are half covered in snow and then snap an axle while doing donuts.

A friend of mine's 17yr old son did it last year.

Idiot.

Duck-Stew · February 17, 2010, 06:17:59 AM

How else are they going to learn?!?

metallimonster · February 17, 2010, 06:27:37 AM

I live accross the street froma school that has a big parking lot with one light pole in the middle. Kid next door wraped his truck around it a couple of year ago. It was awesome!

Duck-Stew · February 17, 2010, 06:31:56 AM

bet he won't do THAT again! LOL....

I witnessed a guy selling a car in a parking lot once and was demonstrating the power it had by doing dry donuts with it. Clouds of pillowy white smoke must have obscured the concrete and steel light pole. The car hit the pole right in the middle on the passenger side and bent up the roof and caved in the side. Pretty much totaled it. It was hilarious!!!!! Couldn't stop laughing.....until the guy saw me and my friend and started to run after us. We jumped in our car and took off...

Vindingo · February 17, 2010, 06:35:45 AM

PERFECT TIME FOR THIS RANT!!!!!

Some asshole punk kid T-Boned me in a parking lot yesterday "because of the snow"

He was in his 4x4 Jimmy thinking that you can do 25 in a parking lot, in the SNOW! I saw him look right at me, whip his wheel around to the left thinking he was going to turn,...

BOOM

smashed the drivers side of my car up!

I got out of my car screaming!!! He was driving too fast for a parking lot, even more-so one covered in 4" of snow, unplowed and unsalted !!!!

I asked him what the F he was driving so fast in a PARKING LOT...COVERED IN SNOW?!?!?!

"ummm I dont know, it's the snow's fault"

No asshole the snow didn't smash the side of my car. Thanks.

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