Marine Scout Snipers

[Monsterlover]

I will be teaching s sniper course next month. And will put this all to rest.

Put what to rest?  Hitting a dime at 600?

[KnightofNi]

I will be teaching s sniper course next month. And will put this all to rest.

do you have to bring your own gun ro are they provided? 

Do we have any 8541's or SOTIC level 1's here?

ohh wait...that might make it difficult for me to get in there. 

[DRKWNG]

Do we have any 8541's or SOTIC level 1's here?

Sort of.  I was qualled as a counter-sniper (the term "sniper" is not pc enough for air force standards) when I was going through the CCT pipe line, way back in the day.

[triangleforge]

it took me a while to realize why i was always better with long barreled guns. 

i would actually like to get a rifle for long distance target shooting. do you think it would be odd to carry that on my back as i ride to the range?

Or you could add a fork-mounted scabbard, like the WWII Harleys.

[KnightofNi]

Or you could add a fork-mounted scabbard, like the WWII Harleys.

that could work!

i think i would have to have that for the XR and the duc, but the triumph seems like it needs to have it mounted off the rear so the pillion can turn around and shoot.

[acalles]

dime at 100 yards, I could do with my HMR on a really calm day.. it would probably take about 20 rounds but I'd hit it.

at 200 yards I couldn't afford a scope that could see that, nor a rifle that could shoot that well (whats that like .2MOA at 200?)

at 600 yards, very much impossible, unless it was a laser rifle with hubble sitting on top.

[sno_duc]

In the mid 90's Sharon and I competed in the USPSA limited nationals in Fredricksburg VA. One evening after shooting we went to Applebees IIRC for dinner. The booth next to ours was taken by the US Army shooting team ( their shirts make it really obvious), naturally we started BSing. When the team is not at matches their day goes something like this: morning run, breakfast, off to the range to shoot a 1,000 rds or so, gym for weight training, lunch, back to the range for another 1,000 rds, and unlike us mere mortals reloading and gun maintenance is taken care of by the armorier. 6 days a week.

If the long range marksman in question had a simular routine and had been doing a lot of 600yd work in the prevous couple of weeks and the wind / atmospheric conditions were the same as he had seen recently and he taped the dime to the center of the bulls eye. Then it is possible that he hit a dime at 600, not likely, but possible.

[ducpainter]

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek030.html

That's the target from the 2004 IBS 600 yd record.

Where do we want to tape that dime?

[sno_duc]

The ragged hole that three rds made would be a likely spot if the wind doesn't change.

[ducpainter]

The ragged hole that three rds made would be a likely spot if the wind doesn't change.

Pretty sure that's 2-2-1.

It was a 5 rd group.

[Kopfjäger]

Put what to rest?  Hitting a dime at 600?

like I said before, the crosshairs at 600 would completly cover the dim. You couldn't even see it A head shot is hard enoug. Now factor in a 5-10mph full value wind

[angler]

You get 10 square inches of surface area for every dollar in dimes.  It wouldn't cost you much at all to cover that entire target with dimes.  Fire 5x and have 5 holes in dimes.  There.  Was that so hard. 

[Speeddog]

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek030.html

That's the target from the 2004 IBS 600 yd record.

Where do we want to tape that dime?

The link says that's five shots in 1.174".
Does that mean all five shots fit in a circle of that diameter?

So that blue circle is ~1.25" diameter?

[Buckethead]

The link says that's five shots in 1.174".
Does that mean all five shots fit in a circle of that diameter?

So that blue circle is ~1.25" diameter?

The smaller blue circle within the white square? The one around the "X"?

Yes, that would be about right.

[acalles]

Pretty sure that's 2-2-1.

It was a 5 rd group.

damn good shooting but, its not a military .308, its a custom hand loaded and hand prepared round threw a custom rifle that probably only sees the light of day if the wind is below 1 mph and humidity is in the best range possible. he has a device to ultrasound his bullets to make sure the jackets are all perfect, he weighs each load to exact, and I mean EXACT load, he's dialed the extreme spread to 7fps  .  I don't think there is anything he could do to get more accuracy out of the rifle. I don't think a military spec'd rifle is any where near that level or accuracy. it's just not needed.