valve cover torque settings

Started by SeaLander, February 22, 2010, 02:34:04 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

SeaLander

well i managed to bust off the top of a bolt trying to torque down the valve covers to 240 inch lbs. Luckily I managed to drill the rest of the bolt out without any damage. Scary. I'm going to buy all new bolts and a new 5mm allen socket.

Am I torquing it to tight? Can I get away with anything looser?

2001 750M


Popeye the Sailor

Where did you get that number? That's 20ft-lbs. Seems a bit high.
If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

Spidey

Personally, I wouldn't worry about the settings at all.  Just torque it so it's a bit tight w/o worrying about the numbers.  If it weeps, tighten it.  It's not like you're torquing down conrods or engine cases or anything.  They're just covers.  
Occasionally AFM #702  My stuff:  The M1000SS, a mashed r6, Vino 125, the Blonde, some rugrats, yuppie cage, child molester van, bourbon.

Popeye the Sailor

So the German value-"Guudendtight"  :P
If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

Speeddog

90 in-lb is plenty for those bolts.

- - - - - Valley Desmo Service - - - - -
Reseda, CA

(951) 640-8908


~~~ "We've rearranged the deck chairs, refilled the champagne glasses, and the band sounds great. This is fine." - Alberto Puig ~~~

SeaLander

Thanks for the advice.

I just messed up another bolt tighting the belt tentioners at 20ft lbs. Hopefully i can drill this one out as easily...ughhh

now i know what i did, I tried tighing the valve covers with the timing belt specs..

Speeddog

I'm pretty sure that the holes in the cylinders that the tensioner bolts go into are heli-coiled.
- - - - - Valley Desmo Service - - - - -
Reseda, CA

(951) 640-8908


~~~ "We've rearranged the deck chairs, refilled the champagne glasses, and the band sounds great. This is fine." - Alberto Puig ~~~

Howie


yotogi

I see you figured it out but here are some torques for an S2R 1K:

Intake/exhaust valve cover screws 10nm
Timing belt idler pulley 20nm
Timing belt tensioner pulley 26nm

ducpainter

Quote from: yotogi on February 23, 2010, 08:06:55 AM
I see you figured it out but here are some torques for an S2R 1K:

Intake/exhaust valve cover screws 10nm
Timing belt idler pulley 20nm
Timing belt tensioner pulley 26nm
I understand the book says that, but in my experience 10nm is a bit much for a 6mm steel screw in an aluminum casting with no helicoil or other insert.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."



CairnsDuc

Quote from: Spidey on February 22, 2010, 03:06:58 PM
Personally, I wouldn't worry about the settings at all.  Just torque it so it's a bit tight w/o worrying about the numbers.  If it weeps, tighten it.  It's not like you're torquing down conrods or engine cases or anything.  They're just covers.  

Gotta agree with Spidey here, I always did mine up to "Bit Tight" or "Nice and Tight" Settings and never had a leak/weep, mind you I always used CA Cycleworks Gaskets as well.
Was always wary of going to hard on the bolts, as Ducpainter said, they are just going into an alloy head, I didn't want to strip/break anything.

yotogi

Quote from: ducpainter on February 23, 2010, 08:11:45 AM
I understand the book says that, but in my experience 10nm is a bit much for a 6mm steel screw in an aluminum casting with no helicoil or other insert.

And I would certainly defer to your experience. Last time I had mine off it did seem that 10nm was on the too tight side for at least one of the bolts.

ducpainter

Quote from: yotogi on February 24, 2010, 05:25:08 AM
And I would certainly defer to your experience. Last time I had mine off it did seem that 10nm was on the too tight side for at least one of the bolts.
I've always used 6 ft/lbs for that size screw in aluminum. There's a good chart here...http://dodgeram.org/tech/specs/bolts/M_bolts.html The limiting factor is the weakest material...being the aluminum head.

I very rarely actually torque that size fastener. Always have gone by feel.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."



Howie

My manual says 3 Nm.  which equals 2.21 ft lbs.