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Author Topic: DSS swingarm: fender mounting points  (Read 3825 times)
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« on: February 28, 2010, 02:23:41 AM »
Hi Guys,

a quick question: I'm having a lot of discussion with a vendor of a carbon rear fender. In his eBay ad, he claims it's to fit all pre-2000 monsters. I went ahead and ordered said fender. When I received the package and tried to mount the fender, the mounting points were way off. The fender required a bolt directly into the swingarm on both sides, while my original fender was attached to 4 mounting points on brackets at a 90-degree angle (so with the bolt in the horizontal plane), as can be seen in the image below (I know, I have to clean the bike! Wink). Are there 2 different types of pre-2000 swingarms? I've heard there were alu and steel versions, depending on the year. Can anyone shed some light on this issue?



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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2010, 04:35:11 AM »
You have a very early aluminum swing arm. They indeed have that type of mount.

The vendor is incorrect.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2010, 03:29:09 PM »
Quote from: ducpainter on February 28, 2010, 04:35:11 AM
You have a very early aluminum swing arm. They indeed have that type of mount.

The vendor is incorrect.

+1

That's the same style as an 851/888 rear fender. I had a 1994 Monster that had that same rear fender mount.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2010, 10:57:34 PM »
Ok, thnx for the help! I sent a link to this topic (and also a scan of the workshop manual clearly showing my swingarm to be original) to the vendor but he hasn't responded since. Luckily I haven't given the eBay feedback yet, so I'm afraid it's not going to be positive for him!
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2010, 02:00:13 AM »
Quote from: Bizzarrini on March 02, 2010, 10:57:34 PM
Ok, thnx for the help! I sent a link to this topic (and also a scan of the workshop manual clearly showing my swingarm to be original) to the vendor but he hasn't responded since. Luckily I haven't given the eBay feedback yet, so I'm afraid it's not going to be positive for him!
I'm guessing he doesn't carry the hugger for an 851/888
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2010, 03:31:29 AM »
Nope, just checked his site. Only a hugger for 'all pre-2000 monsters' Roll Eyes. He offered for me to send the item back, but I would have to pay the transportation. That would mean I paid transport twice, total amount being more than a third of the hugger price, without having a hugger bang head I don't think so!
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2010, 03:35:46 AM »
Quote from: Bizzarrini on March 03, 2010, 03:31:29 AM
Nope, just checked his site. Only a hugger for 'all pre-2000 monsters' Roll Eyes. He offered for me to send the item back, but I would have to pay the transportation. That would mean I paid transport twice, total amount being more than a third of the hugger price, without having a hugger bang head I don't think so!
I guess if he doesn't make it right you leave poor feedback on ebay...

and tell everyone here who it is. Grin

One here...

http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=354
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2010, 07:03:33 AM »
I'm no expert but it looks to me like a 2k+ fender?

Anyhow, about the whole Ebay thing. Something very similar just happened to me. Ebay has this very wonderful thing called "Ebay Buyer Protection". You should check the terms of the buyer protection before you proceed but I assume that since the part is an incorrect one and the seller doesn't offer what you are looking for you should be able to send the item back and receive a full refund. I'm assuming the seller has not responded to you with a refund offer?
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2010, 07:07:48 AM »
Nah he did, but he wants me to pay the shipping (so in total I would have paid shipping twice, totalling to 38% of the cost of the fender!). Doesn't seem reasonable when it's his mistake, right?
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2010, 07:08:14 AM »
Quote from: duc750 on March 03, 2010, 07:03:33 AM
I'm no expert but it looks to me like a 2k+ fender?

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The part that you can see is like my 96 hugger.
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2010, 07:09:33 AM »
Quote from: ducpainter on March 03, 2010, 03:35:46 AM
I guess if he doesn't make it right you leave poor feedback on ebay...

and tell everyone here who it is. Grin

One here...

http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=354

Thnx for the link! I'll see how this one plays out, and if I cant get it to work, maybe I'll be in the market for that!
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2010, 08:21:50 AM »
Quote from: Bizzarrini on March 03, 2010, 07:09:33 AM
Thnx for the link! I'll see how this one plays out, and if I cant get it to work, maybe I'll be in the market for that!

Yeah, worse case you keep the one you have. Sell it. Then buy the right one. I'm sure someone is in the market for a sweet new CF hugger!
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2010, 12:36:14 AM »
Would it be possible to drill a small hole in the swingarm to attach the fender to? Or would this weaken the structure?
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2010, 01:58:14 AM »
Quote from: Bizzarrini on March 04, 2010, 12:36:14 AM
Would it be possible to drill a small hole in the swingarm to attach the fender to? Or would this weaken the structure?

I don't think that would be a good idea.  I would cut up the fender before ever thinking of drilling holes into the swingarm or frame for that matter.
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2010, 02:03:05 AM »
Don't people do that to use paddock-stand spools too?
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