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We bought a new car -- and the dealer is a dumbass

Started by ducatiz, March 02, 2010, 06:02:33 PM

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ducpainter

#15
March 03, 2010, 04:28:25 AM
cars dealers are stupid...

they make a living selling $5K piles of tin and plastic...

for $25K ;D
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ducatiz

#16
March 03, 2010, 04:29:24 AM
Quote from: z0mb1e_DUC on March 03, 2010, 04:22:28 AM
Ironically, Hyundai actually modeled their Quality Control after Toyota's.  I've seen an interview w/Hyundai's CEO, after the reliability issues of the Excel from the 80's (which was really a Mitsubishi design that Hyundai got the rights to build), they basically looked at who was doing the best & why (Toyota) & copied how they went about it.

ironic, but funny.  toyota got fat and razy.  ducati under TPG modeled their manufacturing after toyota as well! 
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

ducatiz

#17
March 03, 2010, 04:33:55 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 03, 2010, 04:28:25 AM
cars dealers are stupid...

they make a living selling $5K piles of tin and plastic...

for $25K ;D

right, and you put a liquid on people's stuff -- 2/3rds of which evaporates -- in exchange for some green paper...
[evil]
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

ducpainter

#18
March 03, 2010, 04:37:06 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on March 03, 2010, 04:33:55 AM
right, and you put a liquid on people's stuff -- 2/3rds of which evaporates -- in exchange for some green paper...
[evil]

exactly...

I know the situation that occurred is not unique.

Just a mistake that the next guy will pay for.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


sbrguy

#19
March 03, 2010, 05:07:02 AM
this thread is going nowhere fast.  its turning into a bash a profession thread and nothing else.

ducpainter

#20
March 03, 2010, 05:13:12 AM
Quote from: sbrguy on March 03, 2010, 05:07:02 AM
this thread is going nowhere fast.  its turning into a bash a profession thread and nothing else.
how so?
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


ducatiz

#21
March 03, 2010, 05:13:55 AM
The only way I see the next guy being affected is the dealer will be more careful.

I bargained the price and terms and it went thru at least 5 ppl before we got the car.  We had no idea they made a mistake until they called 3 days later.
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

LMT

#22
March 03, 2010, 05:14:18 AM
I bought my 2002 Jeep Wrangler new in Dec of 2001.  I did all the Internet research and learned of a $500 rebate for veterans.  I got the regular rebate going at that time, a good price and good financing for the rest.  A week after I got the Jeep home, the sales manager calls me and says they screwed up on the paper work and that I had to come back.  Something about double rebates....

I am not a lawyer, at the time I was an EMT.  I said no.  I signed, paid and that was that.  They kept calling for a month or so, and then I never heard back about it.

Raux

#23
March 03, 2010, 05:28:02 AM
here's the thing.

If dealers would simply sell the vehicles for MSRP and no more no less... would we think they are screwing us?
I mean we don't walk into a McD's and say, damn I know this burger only costs you 15 cents to put on that plastic tray so i'm not willing to pay the 1.05 for it.

Dealers in many cases have done it to themselves, they try to undersell the other dealers, but pad it on the back end.

And honest dealers shows you the value of the money you are spending. tells you why this particular car is worth this particular price.

i personally don't believe in paying all the extra crap you see on some dealer's adendum window sticker. anything other than the MSRP sticker, I won't pay for. and i never finance with a dealer, I use my own bank and walk in with a check for the agreed upon amount.

derby

#24
March 03, 2010, 06:39:40 AM
Quote from: Raux on March 03, 2010, 05:28:02 AM
i personally don't believe in paying all the extra crap you see on some dealer's adendum window sticker. anything other than the MSRP sticker, I won't pay for. and i never finance with a dealer, I use my own bank and walk in with a check for the agreed upon amount.

i'll gladly carry a balance at 0% rather than dropping $10s of thousands in one shot.
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#25
March 03, 2010, 06:42:40 AM
Quote from: derby on March 03, 2010, 06:39:40 AM
i'll gladly carry a balance at 0% rather than dropping $10s of thousands in one shot.

I agree-time value of money (plus you can even earn 2%+ while it's in your savings account for a few years).
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badgalbetty

#26
March 03, 2010, 06:53:07 AM
I dont know about the statement about car dealers being stupid.
If I could sell 5k or crap for 25k I would be pretty happy.
That is not stupid, thats effing brilliant.
Harley Davidson have been doing it for years!
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ducpainter

#27
March 03, 2010, 06:59:18 AM
Quote from: badgalbetty on March 03, 2010, 06:53:07 AM
I dont know about the statement about car dealers being stupid.
If I could sell 5k or crap for 25k I would be pretty happy.
That is not stupid, thats effing brilliant.
Harley Davidson have been doing it for years!
BGB
It was sarcasm

you know...1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain

"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


ducatiz

#28
March 03, 2010, 07:33:00 AM
Quote from: derby on March 03, 2010, 06:39:40 AM
i'll gladly carry a balance at 0% rather than dropping $10s of thousands in one shot.

yeah, i look at it as free time -- not free money. 

i will jump on almost any 0% loan I can get, just for the principle of it.. :D
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

derby

#29
March 03, 2010, 07:35:49 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on March 03, 2010, 07:33:00 AM

i will jump on almost any 0% loan I can get, just for the principle of it.. :D

that's punny.  ;D
-- derby

'07 Suz GSX-R750

Retired rides: '05 Duc Monster S4R, '99 Yam YZF-R1, '98 Hon CBR600F3, '97 Suz GSX-R750, '96 Hon CBR600F3, '94 Hon CBR600F2, '91 Hon Hawk GT, '91 Yam YSR-50, '87 Yam YSR-50

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