How much should I pay for these wheels used?

Started by slowkitty, March 11, 2010, 04:46:55 AM

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2001cromo

We're ONLY talking about 5 spokes here. Either dual sided swingarms or single sided swingarms.

To confirm what others have already said,
Aluminum do have the 'cutouts/indentations' in the spokes. (like the picture of black fog)
Magnesium do not. (like this pic)

And there were no 5 spoke forged at that point and ALL of them were cast.

Now with that said, the later generations of wheels that were the Y spoke types (not the 5 spokes were talking about) could be either cast or forged.

$700 is more towards the high end of what the 5 spoke aluminum's usually go for. So hopefully they're in excellent condition.

HTH

EvilSteve

11ty billion dollars.

[laugh]

I can't believe no one has said this yet.

fastwin

$700 would be really sweet. I paid more for mine but I was pissed at missing out on ebay sales time and again. When my pair showed up I said f#@k it and paid the buy it now price. Like I said, they looked 99.5% perfect. I may have paid extra but I got exactly what I wanted and they were in f'ing great shape. Sometimes you just have to throw the wallet under the bus to get what you want. I don't do that as a practice but that time it worked! [thumbsup]

slowkitty

#18
Here's a couple of pics of another SSA set, different from those on the Black Fog bike:









Really light (so I won't rule out magnesium), but I cannot identify them. Any idea?  The centres of the inner rims have a slightly raised rough texture.

Cheers

ducpainter

Quote from: slowkitty on March 16, 2010, 03:33:42 PM
Here's a couple of pics of another SSA set, different from those on the Black Fog bike:









Really light (so I won't rule out magnesium), but I cannot identify them. Any idea?  The centres of the inner rims have a slightly raised rough texture.

Cheers

Those look like Marvic Penta cast magnesium.
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2001cromo

Quote from: ducpainter on March 16, 2010, 03:38:51 PM
Those look like Marvic Penta cast magnesium.

I agree, definitely Marvic's, but maybe Puima's?
http://www.yoyodyneti.com/Category.aspx?CategoryID=2754

Are those the set you're looking at buying?

I wonder if these are still available?

ducpainter

Quote from: 2001cromo on March 16, 2010, 03:48:51 PM
I agree, definitely Marvic's, but maybe Puima's?
http://www.yoyodyneti.com/Category.aspx?CategoryID=2754

Are those the set you're looking at buying?

I wonder if these are still available?

Maybe Piumas...

they both have a roundish section spoke....

http://tinyurl.com/yfuyxaz
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slowkitty

Good lord ... you guys are amazing.  [clap]

Will go see the wheels for clues .... anything I should check?

ducpainter

Quote from: slowkitty on March 16, 2010, 04:20:56 PM
Good lord ... you guys are amazing.  [clap]

Will go see the wheels for clues .... anything I should check?

Make sure the wheels don't exhibit any powdery white spots or 'worming' under the finish.

Magnesium is a very reactive metal and corrosion is its greatest enemy.
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slowkitty

Looks like Marvic Piuma ... helluva impressed by you guys.

http://www.marvic.it/gallery_piuma_eng.php?ph=2



Thinking of powdercoating them if I can rather then painting. Any pitfalls?

Cheers




ducpainter

Quote from: slowkitty on March 16, 2010, 04:51:34 PM
Looks like Marvic Piuma ... helluva impressed by you guys.

http://www.marvic.it/gallery_piuma_eng.php?ph=2



Thinking of powdercoating them if I can rather then painting. Any pitfalls?

Cheers



Magnesium being as reactive as it is will corrode under paint or powder if the magnesium isn't treated.

Marchesini rims used to be available, maybe still are, in a chromated finish.

If the old finish is removed the wheels must be re-chromated, or magnadyned...similar to alodyne except for mag... before any coating is applied.
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2001cromo

#27
For the record, ducpainter is who I trusted to inspect, treat and paint my magnesium wheels. And also who I turned to when I had to do a little 'work' on them.  Can I say "listen to the man" any clearer   [bow_down] My wheels are still fine after a few years since doing this work.

Quote from: 1KDS on March 16, 2010, 04:52:32 PM
so these aren't magnesium like it says?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-916-996-748-Marchesini-mag-rear-wheel_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c10e676fbQQitemZ120542623483QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Yes, that SSA rear wheel in the pic is magnesium. It's a Marchesini 5 spoke and it doesn't have the raised section on the spokes. They're only flat U shaped spokes. It fits 748/916/996/998 and SSA monsters.

ducpainter

Another invisible danger in powder coating is that many coaters use their oven at ridiculously high temps (>800F) to burn off old finishes.

Magnesium does not like those temps.
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