Grease for eccentric hub and misc bearings

Started by Airborne, March 14, 2010, 12:49:33 PM

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Airborne

What kind of grease do you use for around the eccentric hub? Also any of the other bearings inside the whole unit? I am going to clean it all on a parts washer since I have everything apart.
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I use whatever brand of synthetic grease I happen to have.
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He Man

I use the mobil 1 sythentic grease (its red) for the hub when i put it back together.

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Quote from: He Man on March 14, 2010, 06:23:57 PM
I use the mobil 1 sythentic grease (its red) for the hub when i put it back together.

I use the same stuff. I haven't bothered to get different things for different places. I just plop the red synthetic grease where I'm supposed to apply grease. Perhaps I should be doing something else for the axle or this or that, but up to now, I've never bothered.

Also, red is nice and easy to see where it is in case I miss and get some where it shouldn't be.

*i should clarify, i use antiseize "grease" on bolts. so i do use two different ones I suppose.

He Man

i also have this molyB grease for otherstuff...stuff i cant remember right now.

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Airborne

Alright, thanks. I will probably throw some neverseize on the two rear hub pinch bolts on the SSA.
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He Man

Quote from: ato memphis on March 15, 2010, 02:44:59 PM
onlyseizeoccasionally might work alright.

antiseize-shmantize sieze. i just use locktite keeps it from siezing and comming loose from all the traveling.

i think ur allowed to use grease in a pinch if u need to. anyone know for sure?

ellingly

In my epic replacement of my hub thread I discuss this :P. But I don't blame anyone for not reading it all.

Outside the hub, they specify Alvania R3 in the workshop manual; Shell say this has been superseeded by Alvania RL3. Meh, whatever. 450g tub of it was AU$7, so I figured make the beast with two backs it, I'll use the proper stuff they specify. Picked it up at the local Shell distributor and all that. Pretty sure it's a high lithium grease, and, it's also a bit thicker than most normal moly greases people have hanging around their shed (being a grade 3 grease rather than the usual grade 2 that most people use for everything).

As for the criticality of this grease... not too much. It should repel water and not wash out and not go shitty with dirt etc on it; I for one can't be arsed pulling the hub out any more often than I have to. I'm hoping having done it once was enough.

As for the bearings inside.... yeah. They won't tell you. The SKF bearing on the sprocket side is sealed and lubricated for life and I probably wouldn't pressure wash it. It uses a pretty make the beast with two backsing awesome grease inside it (I pulled one apart). It's quite solid but liquifies quite easily and stays pretty runny. It is VERY different from a normal high-temperature wheel bearing grease, and it doesn't really look or smell like a normal moly grease. The needle bearing on the other side is perhaps a little less critical; I actually used Castrol Agriplus which is one of those 'use this grease for everything' greases and it works really, really well. I've even used it inside car CV joints and it worked an absolute treat on them.... lasted longer than a standard one which used the horrendous usual CV grease.
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Quote from: Airborne on March 15, 2010, 01:44:38 PM
Alright, thanks. I will probably throw some neverseize on the two rear hub pinch bolts on the SSA.

Use grease on those bolts like the service manual calls for.
It keeps them from seizing, and also keeps them from backing out. It works by helping to distribute pressures across all the threads more evenly. Trust me, they will not back out of if you grease them.
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Quote from: corey on March 18, 2010, 12:10:48 PM
Use grease on those bolts like the service manual calls for.
It keeps them from seizing, and also keeps them from backing out. It works by helping to distribute pressures across all the threads more evenly. Trust me, they will not back out of if you grease them.
+1 on the use what the manual says on these things.

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A greased bolt torques differently than a dry bolt. If you are torqueing to factory specs, use what they tell you on the bolt. If you are just tightening until it feels right, who cares about what you put on the bolt.

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