696 DP ECU

Started by R2, March 17, 2010, 09:47:10 PM

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ggemelos

Thanks for the clarification.  That makes a lot more sense. 

Veloce-Fino

Quote from: Raux on August 16, 2010, 08:22:25 AM
the reversed coil wires created a misfire at 4k causing the overheat.



Wait, when I'm cruising at 4k my engine hesitates and loses power. Is this the normal 4k rpm hesitation or should I check for crossed wires??

(Late 08 production bike)

Is this thing on?

Howie

Quote from: Veloce-Fino on August 16, 2010, 10:30:19 AM
Wait, when I'm cruising at 4k my engine hesitates and loses power. Is this the normal 4k rpm hesitation or should I check for crossed wires??

(Late 08 production bike)



Yes.

Veloce-Fino

Is this thing on?

Raux

yes get your coils checked and yes there is a pit in the torque curve around that area but not enought to cause hesitation like you describe just a slight loss of umph at that range

R2

I did the coil wire swap this evening and went for a ride around town. I don't think it was worse, but I couldn't tell if it was better. Before, if I was cruising steady, somewhere around 3.7k rpm it would do these little surges, it would speed up for about a half second, then slow back down, then speed back up, then slow down and so on until I changed the throttle position. It didn't seem to be doing that tonight, but then again I don't know the exact rpm where it happens. I'll just have to ride the Monster like I normally would and hope I know it good enough to tell if it feels different.

Raux

you confirmed you had the problem then did the swap?

R2

I'm not sure how to actually confirm the problem. I'm going with howie's suggestion of doing the swap and seeing if it gets better. If I know it's running better I'll leave it. If I can't tell or think it's worse, I'll revert it back to the original way. I'm pretty much hoping that one way will be noticeably worse to me.

z0mb1e_DUC

Look at the date of manufacture on your frame, if it falls between
ZDM1RADINX9BOOO065, 29th February 2008 & ZDM1RADINX9B011020,  16th September 2008, then you're affected.


PM me with an email addy & I'll send you a pdf file that contains directions on how to check for reversed coils.  It shows the color coding of the wires.  It also explains how to correct it.  The wiring diagram in the original manuals was wrong.  This one has the corrected wiring diagram.
'09 m696 Dark

R2

I'm not sure about the date of manufacture, but my VIN falls in that range, closer to the 65.

z0mb1e_DUC

FYI, if the coil wire issue has not been fixed (sounds like it hasn't) I would also suggest verifying if the other major recall for the wiring harness was ever addressed.  There is an issue with the routing of the wiring harness around the vertical cylinder.  The harness was actually melting due to this.  My bike was also affected by this.   I've pasted the recall info from the NHTSA website below.  The Ducati recall number is in the NOTES portion at the bottom.


Make: DUCATI     
Model: MONSTER 696
Model Year: 2009
Manufacturer: DUCATI NORTH AMERICA    
Mfr's Report Date: MAR 23, 2009
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 09V142000    
N/A
NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING
Potential Number of Units Affected: 1755
Summary:
DUCATI IS RECALLING 1,755 MY 2009 MONSTER 696 MOTORCYCLES. THE MAIN WIRING HARNESS MAY COME IN CONTACT WITH THE VERTICAL CYLINDER HEAD AND EXHAUST PIPE POSSIBLY RESULTING IN DAMAGE TO THE MOTORCYCLE AND A POTENTIAL HAZARD TO THE RIDER.
Consequence:
ANY DAMAGE TO THE HARNESS MAY LEAD TO LOSS OF FUNCTIONALITY OF THE MOTORCYCLE'S LIGHTING SYSTEM OR AN UNEXPECTED LOSS OF ENGINE PERFORMANCE, AND THEREBY INCREASE THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL CHECK FOR INTERFERENCE BETWEEN THE MAIN WIRING HARNESS AND THE VERTICAL CYLINDER HEAD AND EXHAUST PIPE. DEALERS WILL REPOSITION AND FASTEN THE MAIN WIRING HARNESS TO THE FRAME FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING MAY 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT DUCATI AT 800-231-6696.
Notes:
DUCATI RECALL NO. RCL-09-001
'09 m696 Dark

onederer

The funny thing about this 4k hiccup is that it has exsisted longer than just the 696.
When I got my 2007 695 it did the exact same cough at 3700-4000rmp.

i ended up getting the DP ECU.
I would have expected that after so many years, they would have cured the fueling issues.
No moleste el gato spectacular...

z0mb1e_DUC

the fueling "issue" is intentional on their (Ducati's) part.  It is how they get the bikes to pass EURO emissions testing.   
'09 m696 Dark

R2

Thanks for the the pdfs and the heads up on the wiring harness recall z0mb1e_DUC.
I already took it in for the harness recall.

ungeheuer

Quote from: z0mb1e_DUC on August 19, 2010, 09:38:50 AM
the fueling "issue" is intentional on their (Ducati's) part.  It is how they get the bikes to pass EURO emissions testing.   
yup, zactly so.
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