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900 hi-comp pistons, and now it won't run below 2500 RPM.
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Re: 900 hi-comp pistons, and now it won't run below 2500 RPM.
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Reply #30 on:
June 12, 2008, 11:56:40 PM »
Is it the spark or the fuel that's quitting?
Dunno how much that helps, they're both controlled by the ECU.
Fresh out of ideas now.
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Re: 900 hi-comp pistons, and now it won't run below 2500 RPM.
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June 13, 2008, 05:33:14 PM »
TPS voltage checks out fine.
Does anyone know of any incompatibilities between 2000 sensors and 2002 computers?
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'02 620 w/900 swap, high compression pistons, lightweight flywheel, TPO beast intake, TPO clutch kit, and a few minor custom touches ;-)
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Re: 900 hi-comp pistons, and now it won't run below 2500 RPM.
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The only other thing I can think of doing, would be to swap all the 620 stuff back onto the bike and attempt to tune it for the extra displacement with the PCIII. If I were to do so, does anyone have a ballpark as to how much extra to add via the fuel tables? Specifically, are the values in the tables a percent of the duty cycle? or some arbitrary value it uses?
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'02 620 w/900 swap, high compression pistons, lightweight flywheel, TPO beast intake, TPO clutch kit, and a few minor custom touches ;-)
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Re: 900 hi-comp pistons, and now it won't run below 2500 RPM.
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June 13, 2008, 06:25:24 PM »
Around 25-30% more fuel above 10% throttle, not so much difference below 5% according to base maps I have.
Values usually milliseconds injectors are open.
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Re: 900 hi-comp pistons, and now it won't run below 2500 RPM.
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Thanks, I'll give it a whirl for a baseline. If it's enough to get it running I'll worry about dyno tuning. If it's not the answer, I'll keep scratching my head.
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'02 620 w/900 swap, high compression pistons, lightweight flywheel, TPO beast intake, TPO clutch kit, and a few minor custom touches ;-)
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Re: 900 hi-comp pistons, and now it won't run below 2500 RPM.
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June 16, 2008, 06:24:44 PM »
Ok, so with the 620 ecu, gauges, etc. installed it definitely ran better below 2500 rpm. It was obviously lean above 3000, so I added 30 to the PC3 tables. At that point it would run down to about 1800 rpm. I took the 2500 and below area of the table and removed 10 from the tables and it was enough to run down to approximately 1400-1500. Adding or removing fuel below that point seems to make no difference
I'm hoping I've got it running well enough to get it onto a dyno and get some AFR's and find out exactly what's going on with it.
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'02 620 w/900 swap, high compression pistons, lightweight flywheel, TPO beast intake, TPO clutch kit, and a few minor custom touches ;-)
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Just picked it up from the dyno, AFR's are a touch lean, but nothing weird. Some misfires at low RPM, but the powerband is real smooth. We only ran it up to 5k rpm, but made 61hp, and 90ft-lbs of torque.
I'm still getting a lot of oil in the horizontal cylinder, so that's coming back apart this weekend if I've got time. Didn't find anything last time, but it still indicates a problem to me.
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'02 620 w/900 swap, high compression pistons, lightweight flywheel, TPO beast intake, TPO clutch kit, and a few minor custom touches ;-)
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Re: 900 hi-comp pistons, and now it won't run below 2500 RPM.
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Was the light flywheel on (and the bike running well) before you changed the pistons?
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Re: 900 hi-comp pistons, and now it won't run below 2500 RPM.
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Quote from: Tenshikurai on July 02, 2008, 06:39:54 PM
Just picked it up from the dyno, AFR's are a touch lean, but nothing weird. Some misfires at low RPM, but the powerband is real smooth. We only ran it up to 5k rpm, but made 61hp, and 90ft-lbs of torque.
I'm still getting a lot of oil in the horizontal cylinder, so that's coming back apart this weekend if I've got time. Didn't find anything last time, but it still indicates a problem to me.
90ft-lbs of torque with just hi-comp pistons(and a PCIII and dyno tune)?! That's amazing! I am impressed! Good work.
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It wasn't tuned yet, I was just getting air/fuel logs to try and diagnose the problem.
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'02 620 w/900 swap, high compression pistons, lightweight flywheel, TPO beast intake, TPO clutch kit, and a few minor custom touches ;-)
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