Steering Head Bearing Question

Started by corey, March 22, 2010, 04:54:50 PM

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corey

I don't think this question was covered in the other head bearing threads...

Just finished removing the old lower head bearing from my steering stem/bottom triple.
Underneath the bearing seal was a thin aluminum washer. Should this washer remain in place under the new bearings? Or should it be removed, and the new seal be seated directly against the bottom triple?

Bearings are being replaced with SpeedyMoto tapered bearings.

Thanks in advance!
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junior varsity

+1.  Its to keep debris out.

On the 93-01 frames, there's also a washer above the top triple, but below the big round bolt. A person could find themselves a titanium if the were industrious... (racebolts.com)

corey

Quote from: ducpainter on March 22, 2010, 04:56:53 PM
Flatten and re-use the washer. [thumbsup]

awesome thanks guys. glad i didn't bugger it up too bad removing the old ones ;D
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Charlief

Did you save your old race?  If you cut a slot into it you can use it to set your new race in place. Literally took me 30 seconds to set my bottom in

corey

I did save it, and have already cut a slot into it [thumbsup]
My dad has a nice hydraulic press at work, so I just need a steel tube. I might just use a hammer.
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Duck-Stew

Because the race on the tapered roller bearings is so much thinner than on the ball bearing races, the step in the head tube to seat the race up against nearly covers the entire new tapered roller bearing race so you *may* want to cut a couple slots into the step so that you can remove the new races when/if that time comes.
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Charlief

Quote from: corey on March 24, 2010, 12:01:33 PM
I did save it, and have already cut a slot into it [thumbsup]
My dad has a nice hydraulic press at work, so I just need a steel tube. I might just use a hammer.

I used a piece of PVC and a hammer


Spidey

Put it in the freezer first.  I haven't done it with a Ducati steering stem, but on others it's worked great for getting lower bearings on.  
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corey

All great information! Thanks fellas.
Soon as i get myself a section of tube, i'll toss the triple/stem in the freezer [thumbsup]
Any specific grease i should pack the bearing with? I was going to use good ol' molyB
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junior varsity

i used mobil synthetic, iirc. whatever you got should work

Duck-Stew

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corey

Quote from: Duck-Stew on March 25, 2010, 06:33:06 AM
I use Bel-Ray waterproof.

not sure why, but that seems like a really good idea...
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scott_araujo

Quote from: corey on March 25, 2010, 05:01:57 PM
not sure why, but that seems like a really good idea...
;D

+1.  These bearings seem to rot like pears.  Maybe Ducati doesn't put enough grease in, maybe the seal is not so great, maybe both.

Also, I heard that with the tapered bearings you should install the dust shield washers upside down so they don't rub on the bearing race.  Anyone else heard this?

Scott

Duck-Stew

Quote from: scott_araujo on March 27, 2010, 11:03:32 AM
+1.  These bearings seem to rot like pears.  Maybe Ducati doesn't put enough grease in, maybe the seal is not so great, maybe both.

Also, I heard that with the tapered bearings you should install the dust shield washers upside down so they don't rub on the bearing race.  Anyone else heard this?

Scott

I found some 1mm spacers that put the shield just enough far away from the tapered bearing.
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