New (to me) AWD sporty cars...

Started by DRKWNG, March 29, 2010, 11:26:49 PM

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DRKWNG

Like I said, I like BMWs too.  Just not the E90 series.  ;)

And don't worry, a blown R32 wouldn't get shot down quite as easily as you might think. 

zooom

I work at a VW dealer and have a sweet spot for them, and I also own a Scooby Baja Turbo. My .02 is get the MK 4 R32 or find a nice Legacy GT 2.5 Turbo. Nothing against an EVO or an STI ( as they are very compitant vehicles) , but they scream "Look at me!" to the cops as a high profile vehicle. I like the fit and feel of the MK4 R32 better than the MK5 and it is a more reliable unit overall. The Legacy GT 2.5T is basically a slightly detuned and slightly heavier STi without the insurance pricetag or profile and more comfort and convenience. The last option if you don't mind going a lil older is to find a nice Audi S4 Avant with the 2.7BT in it.   

I am more for the undercover utility purpose than the flash factor with an ideal of owning long term and dealing with the variant maintenance and ownership costs when I make these suggestions, so take it for what it's worth.
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DRKWNG

Quote from: zooom on March 30, 2010, 11:46:00 AM
I work at a VW dealer and have a sweet spot for them, and I also own a Scooby Baja Turbo. My .02 is get the MK 4 R32 or find a nice Legacy GT 2.5 Turbo. Nothing against an EVO or an STI ( as they are very compitant vehicles) , but they scream "Look at me!" to the cops as a high profile vehicle. I like the fit and feel of the MK4 R32 better than the MK5 and it is a more reliable unit overall. The Legacy GT 2.5T is basically a slightly detuned and slightly heavier STi without the insurance pricetag or profile and more comfort and convenience. The last option if you don't mind going a lil older is to find a nice Audi S4 Avant with the 2.7BT in it.   

Good info.  What do you tend to find on the Mk IVs as more reliable than the Mk V? 

Quote from: zooom
I am more for the undercover utility purpose than the flash factor with an ideal of owning long term and dealing with the variant maintenance and ownership costs when I make these suggestions, so take it for what it's worth.

I like the low key factor of the R as well.  One (only thing really) thing I didn't like about the S2000 was that every little punk kid was wanting to try and race. 

Popeye the Sailor

Have you considered some sort of little red convertible?

Mid-life crises is just around the corner  ;)  :-*
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DRKWNG

Quote from: MrIncredible on March 30, 2010, 11:51:54 AM
Have you considered some sort of little red convertible?

Just sold this:

Popeye the Sailor

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DRKWNG

Maybe, but those red stripes on the wheels gave me an extra 50 bajillion hp!  

zooom

Quote from: DRKWNG on March 30, 2010, 11:50:38 AM
Good info.  What do you tend to find on the Mk IVs as more reliable than the Mk V? 
 

1st...the manual transmission is more reliable than the DSG with the errant mechatronic issues we've had.

2nd...doing repair yourself with VAG-Com and software protocols is easier to work around and through with the MK4.

3rd...as someone previously pointed out of the Haldex units and their nature....and they are serviceable...

4th...the chassis is lighter in the old gen and it feels more planted to me and I think it is due to the subframe in part and it's design and composition.

I am sure there are a few other things, but am drawing a blank right now as I am seeing the clock and it is time to head home from work....I'll check in on this tommorrow and maybe remember some of the other things....
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DRKWNG

Thanks!  One thing I was curious about, isn't the Haldex system the same between the Mk IV and Mk V? 

Also, I have heard mixed reports on the mechatronic issue on the DSG boxes.  At first I heard that VW was going to do a recall on all of them (especially the early production cars), but then later heard that VW reversed that decision.  Got any idea on that?  If I send you the vin, can you verify if this vehicle needs it?

acalles

Quote from: DRKWNG on March 30, 2010, 12:07:51 PM
Thanks!  One thing I was curious about, isn't the Haldex system the same between the Mk IV and Mk V? 

Also, I have heard mixed reports on the mechatronic issue on the DSG boxes.  At first I heard that VW was going to do a recall on all of them (especially the early production cars), but then later heard that VW reversed that decision.  Got any idea on that?  If I send you the vin, can you verify if this vehicle needs it?

DSG warranty was extended to 100k miles.

the haldex 2 in the MK4 does not have a pump or pressure reservoir, you have to have 1/4 wheel turn before it has enough pressure to engage the rear diff. Haldex 4 in the later cars has a pump and reservoir, it can engage the clutches as soon as you apply the pedal, before you even start moving. it can also apply more torque to the rear, some thing like 60% vs the 40% in the earlier system.

they both have tuned controllers available, the  haldex 4 has the possibility of a tuned controller with a remote to pick between comfort, sport, and race. they are normally set in sport.

I've only replaced one haldex unit, and it was failed due to the car being jumped backwards, also killed the instrument cluster and the lateral accell sensor.

OR.. keep a look out on vortex, I see turbo MK4 R32's for sale their every once in a while, usually mid 20k mile range.

derby

Quote from: acalles on March 30, 2010, 01:49:41 PM

I've only replaced one haldex unit, and it was failed due to the car being jumped backwards, also killed the instrument cluster and the lateral accell sensor.


ok, that's a story i wanna hear.  [evil]
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acalles

Quote from: derby on March 30, 2010, 01:52:12 PM
ok, that's a story i wanna hear.  [evil]

what, that tow truck drivers can't tell the difference between black and red?

$50 tow for a dead battery, almost $2500 in parts, they couldn't prove the truck driver did it. they had to pay it.

then I told them, you need a timing belt and they didn't listen, and 3 mo later I was doing another 3K in work to this beat up TT.

Popeye the Sailor

Quote from: acalles on March 30, 2010, 01:58:53 PM
what, that tow truck drivers can't tell the difference between black and red?

$50 tow for a dead battery, almost $2500 in parts, they couldn't prove the truck driver did it. they had to pay it.

then I told them, you need a timing belt and they didn't listen, and 3 mo later I was doing another 3K in work to this beat up TT.

I heard "jumped backwards" and I was thinking off a ramp.
If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

mitt

Quote from: MrIncredible on March 30, 2010, 02:02:12 PM
I heard "jumped backwards" and I was thinking off a ramp.

+1

I can't blame the tow truck driver too much, I too once jumpered a car backwards - luckily no damage.


mitt

acalles

Quote from: MrIncredible on March 30, 2010, 02:02:12 PM
I heard "jumped backwards" and I was thinking off a ramp.
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

I wish it was that exciting.

I also forgot, in backwoods northern NM dialect of broken english we speak here, the past tense of "jumping" as in, catching air, is ramped.

so in that case it would have been "ya bro, they ramped it backwards, bigger then shit, I guess they weren't putting attention to the road"  [laugh] [laugh]