FCR install - with pods - prep questions

[junior varsity]

Yes, very interesting:

[Düb Lüv]

the main reason i had to rethink my design was that the dyna coil's output are angled at about 45 degrees downward. putting the plug cable at a funky angle.

[Düb Lüv]

but as of now i chopped the original battery tray off, and stuffed my wrong sized battery in there. works good, but not a long term fix.

[Howley]

Yes, very interesting:

That's easily the best solution I've seen! Looks killer!

[junior varsity]

Question. Are his carbs on backwards?!

[dropstharockalot]

^^^^
Possibly... I read the thread from the other board where the pic is from - it sounds like he went with individual 41mm FCRs to allow for shortened intakes.  That would allow him to rotate each one on the intake as needed, wouldn't it?



///the engine under that trick bracket is soooooo sweet it makes me want to crap my pants.

[junior varsity]

that one still looks banked, but on backwards - throttle cables on brakes side rather than clutch/gear change side.  I can't see if the vertical cylinder's there, but it seems like it would interfere with this tray method. I suppose we need more pics.

[junior varsity]

I stand corrected, looking at the built motor, they are even, just oriented in different directions. I get it now.

[junior varsity]

I have the singles on my 966 project and have no issues with them. I also had many conversations with Guy and finally went with his head work, the end result was 108ps or 106hp. To say I was happy with those numbers is and understatement. I built the motor myself, used carillo rods, Mahle pistons, total seal gapless rings, crank knife edged & balanced, fully adj cam pully's with cams degreed per Guys spec, I have lightweight flywheel and clutch basket, Sil motor headers + more, more more. Only problem I had was my carbs were off even though Chris Kelly had them jetted for my engine combo, this I believe was due to my location more than anything else, a new set of needles cured my carb issues and motor has been awesome ever since. Only other problem with singles is your airbox, you won't need it, so I had to fab up a battery box and location for coils, end result was less weight and looks great.

That's Bruntr, Ducati.ms - via Atlanta, GA

If I summarize his setup, you get:

966 (95mm Mahle pistons, 68 mm stroke - oem stroke) - Gapless Rings (How does this work?)
Knife Edged & Balanced Crank, Carillo Rods
Keihin Split Singles - different needle for jetting reasons
Pod Filters, Sil Moto Spaghetti Headers
MBP flowed heads
Degreed Cams
Lightweight Flywheel
"more more more" - wish he would have elaborated.

Still has crappy OEM crankcase breather. No mention of lightened engine internals beyond flywheel. Wonder why he didn't do DynaCoils, no mention of changed ignition boxes to 1.1, 2.4, 3.0 or otherwise.

[greenmonster]

Seems like like Kokusan 1105 boxes, I guess he moved the pickups.

Is the OEM crank breather working bad? I really don`t know.....

[koko64]

G'day guys.
This is such an interesting thread.

Those short manifold bikes certainly have a particular requirement for a battery/ignition bracket due to the split single carbs. Seems more straightforward for the stock manifold set up.

I have really wanted to put short manifold/split FCRs on my Monster and have checked out what's involved. Looking at various websites and having e-mailed people in the States, Canada and Australia it's obvious that the short manifold bikes are nearly all carbed 900SS, 900SSie or M900ie models with only a few exceptions. Most people were very helpful and straight up.

The carbed Monsters seem to require a 'not as short' manifold arrangement if you don't want to cut the frame. This requires fabrication of custom manifolds. If you are willing to modify the frame you are able to get the 'optimum' short manifold length for top end horsepower. If anyone in the world sells bolt on short manifolds that don't require touching the frame please PM me. If someone sells 'em I would advertise my dual 41FCRs and call Chris Kelly for a split singles kit!

If I still had my Superlight I would have done it for sure.

a m , this has potential for your track bike project 'eh? Or are you tempted to go the whole shebang with your Monster? I didn't feel it was worth it unless I wanted to paint the frame.

Vee Two used to do their own version of head reconfiguration like MBP. You could ship your motor or whole bike to them, but that avenue is gone for us down here. I have enquired in Australia as to whether other engine builders would do such work. I have not had much success in garnering any interest so far. Unfortunately DS motors are also still too expensive here, if you could find one.

When it's time for a full rebuild, I'm looking at an MBP style heads, split singles and a modified frame because by then the frame will need a repaint anyway!

[junior varsity]

koko - give mark at veetwo a call, they DO have some of those lightweight primaries in stock!

[koko64]

Thanks a m.

Were they heavily discounted?

Looking forward to seeing your work with the battery box and pods.

Cheers

[junior varsity]

somewhere in the 300's per set

[koko64]

Wow, at least a grand off from memory. I'm pretty sure from a copy of their catalogue I recently deleted . That was for the set.

That's a liquidation price alright. I reckon I would have to lower my gearing if I put it on. I'm running 15/39 which is stock here, but the bike pulls it easily with it's mods. Have to check Brads gearing/primary ratio charts.

Cheers
Gotta watch the Moto GP delayed now, just got up.