Prepping for powdercoat...

Started by gOoIe B, April 05, 2010, 02:19:45 AM

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He Man

Quote from: gOoIe B on April 05, 2010, 04:27:10 PM
since we all love pics, I will show you a glimpse of what I'm working with so far.



jeez i wish people would give me stuff that clean to PC!!!!! good job.


the FLAT epoxy will do fine outdoors. its not the weatherbility problem as much as it is a UV problem.
i really like the look of matte black. heres a few things i did in matte black as well. 



and my swingarm in gloss black (TGIC)

gOoIe B

Quote from: He Man on April 05, 2010, 06:12:57 PM
jeez i wish people would give me stuff that clean to PC!!!!! good job.


the FLAT epoxy will do fine outdoors. its not the weatherbility problem as much as it is a UV problem.
i really like the look of matte black. heres a few things i did in matte black as well. 


The camera makes the parts look cleaner than they are, but I did use lots of rags and wd-40 to get 'em looking even that clean.

Got my box o' parts crammed into the back of the car, awaiting their delivery this evening!  :D

gOoIe B

In case someone else in the future has to search for an answer to this problem, I will go ahead and post it up on here.

Straight from my duc tech - to remove the cam cover bearings, all that needs to be done is to remove the snap rings (of course), then heat up the cam cover, pick it up with an oven mitt or thick rag, and smack it bearing-side down onto a piece of wood or other flat surface - it should pop right out.

as a side note, I'll have my parts back in about a week.  :D

booger

#18
Hey silver, I want to see the exhaust - did you fully core them or what?

And a question for all those who have PCed the alt-side engine cover - what did you do about the bearing in there, did you pull it beforehand or leave it in? If you pulled it, how?
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gOoIe B

I pulled that bearing too.  I don't have the cover in front of me so I don't remember if there was a snap ring involved, but if there was, it was removed, then I put the back side of a socket through the hole in the alternator housing and tapped the bearing out.

gOoIe B

I've got another brain buster for yous guys.

When I removed the wet clutch cover, I pulled out all the oil seals/sight glass/etc., then sat it on my table facing up and didn't give it a second thought.  I forgot all about the black "clutch basket" thing bolted into the inside of the clutch cover.  Well, my powder guy is getting ready to blast and notices this thing is still installed in the clutch cover, so he pulls all the bolts out and tries to remove it.  No good.  Sat the clutch cover gasket-side down on a wooden table and beat the outside of the cover with a rubber mallet, still with no results.

How the hell does one get this thing out?  It looks like it should just come out after the bolts are removed...   ???

gOoIe B

#21
Sorry for blowing up my own thread, but I'm beginning to despair, this inner clutch basket has got to be removed or else theres no way we'll be able to clear all the blasting media out of the clutch cover.  My powder guy is ready to lay down some color, too.

I placed a call to my dealer/service shop again today to try to get a solution for this; was put on the phone with the head of the service department, he had no idea how to resolve my problem but he didn't want to let me talk to a tech.  "I find it hard to believe you were put on the phone with one of our techs yesterday, considering the time of year and how busy we are..." well, I don't want to be a nuisance and I also don't want to argue, but come on.  Talking to a tech seemed like no problem yesterday, and it only took them a matter of seconds to address my problem with the cam bearings.  Kind of insulting that he wanted to doubt my claim too.  Oh well.  So here I am, while my clutch cover is with the powdercoater, meaning I can't even try to remove the basket myself.  Surely someone roaming these forums has powdercoated their wet clutch cover, or had some other excuse to remove the inner basket?  Anyone?  Bueller?

edit:  just checked in my digital workshop manual, and the only advice it gives is to remove the 6 bolts holding the inner clutch cover in, then remove the inner cover and sound deadener behind it.  it even has a picture of a hand simply lifting the inner cover out.   Frustration ensues...

orlandofast1

Have been wanting to do this myself. How did you get the sight glass out?

He Man

pretty sure its just glued on.

Think about it.

You cant press plastic into metal. plastic will bend,deform, crack
You can only bolt it, or seal it with glue. Eitherway, this is another reason why i wont PC my case covers ( that and it wouldnt match my engine if i decided to paint it cause theres noway im going to PC my engine)

gOoIe B

Quote from: orlandofast1 on April 09, 2010, 04:11:22 AM
Have been wanting to do this myself. How did you get the sight glass out?

all I had to do was tap it out from the inside of the cover using a socket that was the same diameter as the sight glass.

gOoIe B

Quote from: He Man on April 09, 2010, 07:33:14 AM
pretty sure its just glued on.

Think about it.

You cant press plastic into metal. plastic will bend,deform, crack
You can only bolt it, or seal it with glue. Eitherway, this is another reason why i wont PC my case covers ( that and it wouldnt match my engine if i decided to paint it cause theres noway im going to PC my engine)

I see your point, but if I get the chance to paint the engine somewhere down the road, I will likely intentionally paint it a different shade from the case and belt covers - if done right, it will look good AND provide more contrast to give the observer "more to look at."

silversled

Quote from: bergdoerfer on April 07, 2010, 09:08:01 AM
Hey silver, I want to see the exhaust - did you fully core them or what?

And a question for all those who have PCed the alt-side engine cover - what did you do about the bearing in there, did you pull it beforehand or leave it in? If you pulled it, how?

Bergdoerfer,
Yes they are fully cored.  Just ordered the perforated tubes and fiberglass batting tonight.  Once the perf tube is fitted the whole exhaust goes for black ceramic coating.  I'm on the verge of hijacking the OP's thread so I won't dump a bunch more picts  ;)

My alternator cover was completely stripped for PC-ing.  I used a bearing puller.  As durable as bearing are, I hate whacking the crap out of them when I intend to re-use them. 

silversled

Quote from: gOoIe B on April 08, 2010, 02:38:09 PM
Sorry for blowing up my own thread, but I'm beginning to despair, this inner clutch basket has got to be removed or else theres no way we'll be able to clear all the blasting media out of the clutch cover.  My powder guy is ready to lay down some color, too.

edit:  just checked in my digital workshop manual, and the only advice it gives is to remove the 6 bolts holding the inner clutch cover in, then remove the inner cover and sound deadener behind it.  it even has a picture of a hand simply lifting the inner cover out.   Frustration ensues...

gOoIe,
Do you have a picture of mentioned "inner cover"?  What year and model is your bike? 

gOoIe B

My bike is a 2006 Monster s2r 800 dark, and this diagram will show you the clutch housing I'm working with.



apparently its gonna take a lot more than a thumb and two fingers to pull this pregnant dog out...

He Man

in that case get a rubber mallet and start wacking away!