[SBK Project: 2v Motor - 748/996 era Frame]

[Düb Lüv]

I don't know what the coating is on the Mahles or Pistals.

box-in-box:

ahhhhhhhh says the blind man. i was my MAC had paint. i guess that's why they have photoshop.

[Düb Lüv]

Box in Box is the bracing on the bottom - it is shaped like a # sign, rather than just the two bars the pin runs through.

Pistals are machined, I know that, I do not know about the Mahle's coating (yet)

i know what the coating on the pistons was for, but not the name and such. here's a little reading for you A M.
http://www.mahle.com/C125705E004FDAF9/CurrentBaseLink/W276RJYM064MARSEN

i'm glad you updated your blog. your making it hard for me to stalk you.

[junior varsity]

sorry all!

I have been busy with it, but there is some other "doings" going about:

My Monster 900 is getting upgraded SBK forks with Ohlins internals, AMS billet 65mm-40mm caliper adapters, ISR 6-piston, 6-pad Billet Monoblock calipers, another set of IMA triples with 53/53 boring, 53mm clipons, TPO's lightweight front axle, titanium caliper pinch/bracket bolts, titanium axle pinch bolts, titanium axle nut, and BST front wheel.

With that said, I've been working with Allan and Noah at TPO Parts pretty closely with some fasteners and such for the project.


We've got lots more titanium in the garage now, Jako Motorsport adjustable short intake manifolds (pictures to come), Triples are on the way, 1198 TiNi forks are here, CM Composit swingarm guard, carbon undertail, and a lead on the rest of the carbon fiber bodywork.


We are getting close to "labor only" left for what is required to make it work. Sure, I still haven't sat down and discussed brakes with myself yet, nor have I found a thorough exhaust guy to do some lightweight SS or Ti bending for a good 2-1 or 2-1-2 system.

Still considering carbonpartz.net cans for the project

[junior varsity]

Oh, forgot to say that I have talked with ETI about a fuel-cel specific for this application too!

[1KDS]

Did you end up getting the IMA triples?
What would the fuel cell look like?
Theo's got some CMC rotors for sale...

[junior varsity]

oooh, need to check with him about those.


I've had IMA triples on my M900 for awhile, and instead of doing the bore/shim for the SBK forks, I'm going to order up a proper set of 53/53 IMA triples.

The Fuel Cel is going to look just like an oem tank, weigh about 5 lbs less itself, but weigh less again because it won't have an internal fuel pump and all the fixings on the inside - he said no biggie on making a block-off for an outflow nozzle

[1KDS]

I meant the triples for the sbk,
the fuel cell is intriguing

[junior varsity]

I think I'm going for the Corse shape, which has the dent in the top for your chin when you are goin' soopa-doopa fast (which I may have as an indicated speed on the dial).


Our dear friends at Motowheels are helping hook me up with some billet triples for the non-adjustable steering head, 30mm offset.

If you aren't on Patrick and Emmanuele's email list, I can forward you their upcoming SBK triple design. Its got all sorts of holes in it and such

[junior varsity]

The short list of *very* helpful people with this project, so far, include:

Allan & Noah @ TPO
Ed @ Motowheels
Chris @ CA-Cycleworks
John Harvey @ ETI
Julius Ilmberger
Jeff Grieco @ Brocks
Chantal @ BST
David @ Spiegler

I have given up on Rene @ RaceBolts for Titanium Fasteners all together now. He's not fulfilled an order from almost 6 months ago, and has decided to stop responding to emails. Pity, I have a lot more bolts, both titanium and aluminum, that I'll need.

In Rene's place, I'll source bolts from BallerBolts, as that keeps biz within the board, and TPO, ProBolt, and MetTec (haven't used them yet, but they have a straightforward website with some things I need).

Still in the parts gathering phase, I'm still investigating getting Ceramic Hybrid Bearings to replace all internal motor bearings for weight savings, lower heat, less rolling resistance, but emphasis is on weight savings. I've read that hybrid is the way to go in heat-applications, like within a motor, so there's not issues related to differing heat deformation/expansion rates.

[1KDS]

If you aren't on Patrick and Emmanuele's email list, I can forward you their upcoming SBK triple design. Its got all sorts of holes in it and such

I've just got some stockers at the powder coater right now, think I'll stick with the stock offset, I can always flip the eccentric

[junior varsity]

.... nothing doin' on the motor so far. picked up a fixxer upper old 900 for the wife to learn to ride on, so its taking up a lot of my time and available money.

but, its not all at a stop. so far we have acquired these pieces since the last update:
Carbon Dream LH and RH fairings and belly pan (obviously carbon fiber)
Sebimoto Carbon Fiber Air Box and Air Ducts
NCR Clipons
NCR Ride Height Rod

I mock assembled the bodywork, attaching the carbon air ducts to the carbon airbox and the carbon headlight mount. Looks really good, need to find a carbon front headlight fairing, but need to find money for it first.

The motor still sits in pieces on the shelves in the garage for now.  :/  Its going to be a long term project. I have considered getting an 848 motor and shoe-horning that in.

[1KDS]

I have considered getting an 848 motor and shoe-horning that in.

Boooooooooooooooo

[junior varsity]

i'd make it a dry clutch.... and maybe put 1098 or 1198 pistons and cylinders on it for a short stroke 1040 or 1080...

[Monsterlover]

I bet that would make some torque...

[junior varsity]

good news, bad news, who's to say?

with a somewhat heavy heart, today i bid farewell to the idea of putting a 900 motor into a late 748 frame.


The bad news is that I'm pretty much taking this project and not moving it to a backburner, but taking it off the stove altogether and putting it back in the freezer for awhile.

The good news is that the 900 motor parts I have acquired "just happen to work" in my M900. Likewise, things like the v-series heads and IE cams may (much later) end up in the second m900 i have in the garage that my wife is learning to roll around on. Its got w-series heads, and this will be a nice improvement. the cylinders will get bored and replated for 94mm pistons and will go in my bike for a 944, and things like the bottom end may get parted out where profitable or turned in to art where not profitable.

All is not lost. The project remains a nice project for another day. The other 2V superbike threads had me considered cost efficiency, or bang-for-buck motor selection. I like the gonzo parts for sure, but i don't want to chase performance and sacrifice so much reliability that the bike won't really ever work. So eventually I'll be looking for an 1100DS HYM motor, as that is quite straightforward, and do some basics to it (cams, flywheel, slipper, mag and carbon parts) and call it a day.

I'll post some pictures up this afternoon (hopefully) of where it is at currently. The short list:

Carbon air box
Carbon air runners
Carbon headlight mount
Carbon LH, RH Fairings
Carbon bellypan
Carbon undertail
Carbon tail
Carbon swingarm guard
Carbon corse-style heel guards
Carbon chainguard
Carbon BST rear wheel

billet DucShop 30mm 848 triples
billet rear caliper mount
billet corse style rearset brackets
billet Ducabike Ohlins steering damper mount
billet DP steering stem nut
billet DP fork adjusters
billet quick-release seat mount
billet rear master cylinder/lever bracket
billet rear brake levers
billet gp shift levers
billet madduc seat latch
billet TPO front axle

billet/ti NCR ride height rod
billet/ti NCR clipons

ti front axle nut
ti rear axle wheel nut
ti rear axle sprocket nut
ti rear rotor bolts
ti eccentric pinch bolts
ti rocker pivot
ti upper shock pin
ti upper rideheight rod pin
ti shock/rideheight rod pivot
ti swingarm pivot
ti motor mounts
ti front and rear caliper mount bolts
ti rearset bolts
ti airbox bolts
ti upper and lower triple pinch bolts
ti subframe bolts

aluminum monoposto subframe
ohlins steering damper
1098 showa forks
craptastic 748 showa shock

For the "new plan" (plan c or d...)
if somebody can help me with the short list of parts i'm going to need, I'm going to hang it in the garage and slowly whittle it down.

motor
injectors
coils
wiring harness
reg/rec
ecu
fuel pump

since i'm having an off-day, point out what i'm obviously omitting (besides gas, battery, spark plugs, motor oil, muffler bearings, headlight fluid, and flux capacitor)