Duaul compound tires

[uclabiker06]

and if you watched what Bridgestone did in racing, this is the best tire for the price...at this moment...

When you say "racing" are you referring to MotoGP?  I don't think production tires are the same as MotoGP; are they?

[johnster]

Are you running them on the street?

If so...how long before they heat cycle out?

I do run them on the street, and was very careful to initially try and first heat-cycle them gently so they didn't scrub or risk getting prematurely "greasy" which soft tires can do when heated up, and not broken in properly...The compund breaks down, tire becomes mush, yadayadayada......bad things happen...

-I still try and warm them up gently by zig-zaggging a bit out of my neighborgood before I put any real stress on them, or I'll leave them exposed to the sun on warm days before riding (I don't have tire warmers, and would view myself as a tool if I did for street riding!!!     )

-I'm admittedly not too educated on detecting when a tire is sarting to cycle out...   I have about 1700 miles on mine, and might go w/a pair of 2ct's next, as it seems like soft compund tires are almost impractical for the street unless you cycle them properly right of the bat....

[ducpainter]

I do run them on the street, and was very careful to initially try and first heat-cycle them gently so they didn't scrub or risk getting prematurely "greasy" which soft tires can do when heated up, and not broken in properly...The compund breaks down, tire becomes mush, yadayadayada......bad things happen...

-I still try and warm them up gently by zig-zaggging a bit out of my neighborgood before I put any real stress on them, or I'll leave them exposed to the sun on warm days before riding (I don't have tire warmers, and would view myself as a tool if I did for street riding!!!     )

-I'm admittedly not too educated on detecting when a tire is sarting to cycle out...   I have about 1700 miles on mine, and might go w/a pair of 2ct's next, as it seems like soft compund tires are almost impractical for the street unless you cycle them properly right of the bat....

I think you'll find the 2cts or even regular powers are a better choice for the street.

You won't get any warning on the power race when they're done. They just go away.

[slyfox]

When you say "racing" are you referring to MotoGP?  I don't think production tires are the same as MotoGP; are they?

Of course NOT ......

moto4us rite, ...... BT tires the best value for money

& since you mentioned motoGP, ...... Malaysia will be holding the motoGP in Sepang on the 18th & 19th October this year ......... be there .... it'll be FUN

[krista]

zig-zaggging a bit out of my neighborgood before I put any real stress on them

by the way, RW did a test ... they were able to prove that weaving actually cools the tires as compared to just going in a straight line. You can't actually weave a bike hard enough long enough to generate heat in the tires.

Gentle but increasing acceleration and braking forces are the best thing to do.

Chris

[johnster]

You won't get any warning on the power race when they're done. They just go away.

so the comopund just starts to break down and they lose their tractability?? Is there ANY thing I can look for?? They seem fine for now, but I don't want to find out the hard way that I waited too long!! I'm gonna go w/the 2ct's probably sooner than later I think, and save the Pow-Races as backups...
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-I thought they'd be better simply because softer=stickier=more traction, but much like brakes should be properly bedded-in, soft-compund tires must be properly heat-cycled initially, and won't perform right otherwise...Is that a fair analogy??

[Capo]

When you say "racing" are you referring to MotoGP?  I don't think production tires are the same as MotoGP; are they?

What the tire companies learn in racing, trickles down to their production products.

[mihama01]

Any way to find out where the softer compound is on the Corsa III's?

I got Corsa III and so far best tyres I have used. The banding on the rear is actually quite visible. From memory I would say the center 3 inches is harder and 2 inches on each shoulder is softer.

Even with medium paced road riding you are still using that softer part.

[Desmostro]

Have you run their M1's? If so, how would you rate the M3's compared to the M1's as far as extreme lean grip and wear? One would think they are better but ya never know what mfg's are thinking/doing these days...   

I haven't tried the M1's. I just believed the hype that the M3's were a huge improvement on the M1's for both traction/wet traction and longer wear. I found these qualities in them to be very good.
When my stock Pirelli Dragon's are done, I'm gong back to them. 

[Vindingo]

I got the Road 2CTs because I commute on the bike also.  The center is supposed to be harder so it wont flatten as fast as the PPs.  After using these sport touring tires for about 3k miles now, Im pretty confident that you do not need a high proformance sport tire for the street.  They were a little more expenive than the PPs, but are supposed to last twice as long.   I have pushed these things as hard, if not harder than my old PPs and they have never slipped.  I couldnt not imagine replacing street tires every 2 or 3 thousand miles.  I guess if it provides confidence than that is a good thing, but as someone stated earlier any modern non-touring tire IS more than enough for the street. 

[Vindingo]

check this vid out 


those PP 2CTs are some serious tires

[hypurone]

I haven't tried the M1's. I just believed the hype that the M3's were a huge improvement on the M1's for both traction/wet traction and longer wear. I found these qualities in them to be very good.
When my stock Pirelli Dragon's are done, I'm gong back to them. 

Cool thanks. I'm gonna mount up a set just cuz I gotta try em. metz's have always been my fav tires. Depending on their wear and performance will determine wether I go back to the Pirelli's. One weird thing is I see the Diablo Rosso's are not dual compound on the rear like the Corsa III is. Makes me wonder about mileage on it.

Anyone running the Rosso's and have some serious mileage on them? Ot just wanna comment on them in general?

[mihama01]

I was not impressed at all with the M1s when I tried them years ago. I thought the plain Pilot Powers were better at that time.

[CRASH!]

Here's my two bits:

I have run Pilot Roads, then Pilot Powers, then Diablo Corsa IIIs and I just ordered Power 2CTs. (I'm not even going to talk about the Dunlops that came on the bike )

I did track days on all three. My favorite has been the Powers. It's a combination of the traction and the profile. I also did some very aggressive touring on the Powers with no worries. I got over 9k out of the Roads and over 6k from the Powers. I'm closing on 6k on the Corsa IIIs and they're pretty much shagged. I ride a '99 M900S and while most of my miles are commuting (unfortunately) I get on 'em when I can.

I'd like a Power with a harder center but that's not what 2CTs are; they have the same center as the Power with a softer side. So there's no additional mileage to be gained from buying 2CTs. I just figured for $25, what the hell? That one track day or that one ass-puckering save on the tires will be worth $35

[ducpainter]

so the comopund just starts to break down and they lose their tractability?? Is there ANY thing I can look for?? They seem fine for now, but I don't want to find out the hard way that I waited too long!! I'm gonna go w/the 2ct's probably sooner than later I think, and save the Pow-Races as backups...
...
-I thought they'd be better simply because softer=stickier=more traction, but much like brakes should be properly bedded-in, soft-compund tires must be properly heat-cycled initially, and won't perform right otherwise...Is that a fair analogy??

The rubber in race tires is compounded for just what you say....great traction.

It doesn't have the number of heat cycles compounded in to them like a street tire.

I was on a ride with a kid on a ZX-9 with a set of Michelin S2 (soft) race tires (predecessor to the Power). They were a 1/2 season old...looked brand new. It was a cool day, and those things were like grease. He couldn't lean the thing with out it sliding.

We tried everything to help him, but there was no way to get those things to stick. If it were me I'd keep my eyes open for a deal on Power street tires and change out the races before they go away on you.