Duaul compound tires

[uclabiker06]

Searched, but didn't find answer.  Is there a NOTICEABLE difference in cornering traction with dual compound versus singular compound tires?  The idea makes perfect sense but just wanted to know if anyone can speak from first hand experience.  Is dual compound marketing hype or not?  Anybody have anything bad to say about a particular dual compound tire?  Any recommendation for one brand over another??  I personally never ride in the rain and mostly just canyon carve.

[johnster]

 I run dual-compound Michelins (Power Race med-soft).... I mean yeah, it's noticable in the sense that when you're at full lean they have an awesome amount of sticky grip when warmed up; much more than regular compund tires IMO....

But it's not the kinda thing where you go into a turn and say: oooohhh!! there's the soft part!! 

You don't feel it per-se, but my dual compounds definitely have allowed me to rip corners at speeds I normally wouldn't, so I like 'em....

[uclabiker06]

But it's not the kinda thing where you go into a turn and say: oooohhh!! there's the soft part!!

Yeah, no, thats not what I meant by noticeable.

I mean yeah, it's noticable in the sense that when you're at full lean they have an awesome amount of sticky grip when warmed up; much more than regular compund tires IMO....

COOL so then they actually work.  My next tire is going to be dual compound then.  Think I am going to go with the Diablo Corsa 3s.  

[lazarus7]

i swapped to the pilot power 2ct's on the rear of the speed triple last time i changed
since its all superslab straight-up riding here...
no NOTICEABLE difference in handling, they work just fine....
have to see how the mileage stacks up....
but, no complaints here, they work fine, sticky in all conditions and no noticeable transition from center to side...

[He Man]

i think youd have to be a consistent rider, and test them on the track. But from the reviews they do help shave some time.

[uclabiker06]

I guess what I really want to get out of them is confidence when carving it up in the canyons. 

[He Man]

thats only going to come with time, practice, classes, and etc. your tires already have an AMAZINIG amount of grip. THe fear comes from your skill.

[clubhousemotorsports]

I cannot speak for the corsa III but I know for a fact (I sell them) that the 2ct pilot powers have only an added inch at the outer edge that is a softer compound, unless you are scrubbing your tires to that edge it is mostly a waste of money.
That being said the 2ct power (rear) is constructed completely differently from the regular power As in carcass construction.

Power race tires vary where the second compound starts as well. I have tot read up on the 2ct roads yet to see where it begins but I just installed a set and they handle very nice ( too early to tell how they will wear or last).

I have been using dual compounds since the late 80's (bridgstone spitfires) It is a very good Idea that should improve with time.

[hypurone]

Odd, most riders I know of think of dual compound tires in the opposite way. As in, how much harder is the center, so I can get some mileage out of it! The Diablo Corsa III rears are dual compound but not the front. The front is a medium compound all the way across. BUT, they both have steel belts! Suhweet. So far I don't see much difference in wear vs the Metzelers I usually run. Will prob end up with the same mileage on em. Stick is about the same as the Sportec M1. I'm itchin to try the new M3.  [moto]

[carlosbarrios]

I ran a Corsa III, and got 2k miles out of it.  Then I got a MUCH cheaper Conti Sport Attack, with DynaBeads to balance it, and it's got 2.5k miles, and still has a bit of rubber left.  The sport attack seems to be much stickier on the middle too, which is weird that it's lasting more than the Corsa.  I'll be sticking with the sport attacks for a while.

[uclabiker06]

that the 2ct pilot powers have only an added inch at the outer edge that is a softer compound

Any way to find out where the softer compound is on the Corsa III's?

The Diablo Corsa III rears are dual compound but not the front. The front is a medium compound all the way across. BUT, they both have steel belts! Suhweet.

What do steel belts do???

[ducpainter]

I run dual-compound Michelins (Power Race med-soft).... I mean yeah, it's noticable in the sense that when you're at full lean they have an awesome amount of sticky grip when warmed up; much more than regular compund tires IMO....

But it's not the kinda thing where you go into a turn and say: oooohhh!! there's the soft part!! 

You don't feel it per-se, but my dual compounds definitely have allowed me to rip corners at speeds I normally wouldn't, so I like 'em....

Are you running them on the street?

If so...how long before they heat cycle out?

[Desmostro]

Odd, most riders I know of think of dual compound tires in the opposite way. As in, how much harder is the center, so I can get some mileage out of it! The Diablo Corsa III rears are dual compound but not the front. The front is a medium compound all the way across. BUT, they both have steel belts! Suhweet. So far I don't see much difference in wear vs the Metzelers I usually run. Will prob end up with the same mileage on em. Stick is about the same as the Sportec M1. I'm itchin to try the new M3.  [moto]

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The Metzelers M3 are outstanding. I found great cornering in all conditions, great for early season cool days. Never took them on the track. I had them on my Monster. I'm riding Pirelli DRAGON SUPERCORSA PRO.'s They are just ok for general riding around. They are really for the track. And prolly ONE track day at that. After 1300miles I can see wear, and flatting in the rear. After they get good and hot they corner like velcro but...The M3's lasted WAY longer.

[hypurone]

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The Metzelers M3 are outstanding. I found great cornering in all conditions, great for early season cool days. Never took them on the track. I had them on my Monster. I'm riding Pirelli DRAGON SUPERCORSA PRO.'s They are just ok for general riding around. They are really for the track. And prolly ONE track day at that. After 1300miles I can see wear, and flatting in the rear. After they get good and hot they corner like velcro but...The M3's lasted WAY longer.

Have you run their M1's? If so, how would you rate the M3's compared to the M1's as far as extreme lean grip and wear? One would think they are better but ya never know what mfg's are thinking/doing these days...   

[moto4us.com]

new release BT016 front= 2 compound, rear= 3 compound I sell bunch of those and also BT002 race DOT....and if you watched what Bridgestone did in racing, this is the best tire for the price...at this moment...