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Düb Lüv
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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May 15, 2010, 07:26:33 PM »
the spokes on the r6 wheels seem to be narrower than ducati 3 spoke wheels.
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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May 16, 2010, 06:42:20 AM »
Haven`t been to my shed yet so no measuring.
In 1 of the 2 variations of discs/caliper setup I had 4mm
clearence caliper-spoke, no issues.
In my pic below I had R1 320 mm discs, now I have another setup
w 300 mm EBC on caliper adapters.
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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May 16, 2010, 08:24:28 AM »
what i'm trying to figure out is the width of the rotor mounting on the hub from left to right. if i were to use the r6 wheel and rotors that have 0mm of offset, and the rotor/hub width is wider than 119mm, than it would be hard to work with.
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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May 16, 2010, 11:37:58 AM »
ohhhhh my. i spent about 4 hours today on Galfer's rotor tech sheet. i exhausted. now i still have to get wheel measurements.
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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May 16, 2010, 01:11:45 PM »
R6 front wheel:
Fr outside disc to outside disc: 128 mm.
Disc thickness: 5 mm.
W my Showa forks, wheel centered as original Duc wheel whithin +- 1mm,
: Center of hub to fork (fr riders POV): Right 5mm, L 10mm.
This is what you could custom fit f alignment, calipers etc.
Hope this helps in someway.
Besides the eventual yokes differences,
you also have to consider front-rear wheel alignment.
It`s not an easy task...
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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May 16, 2010, 01:24:49 PM »
thanks green.
what rotors are you using with the 128mm measurement
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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May 16, 2010, 01:35:49 PM »
EBC wave 5 mm (R1 ones had the same measurements).
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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May 16, 2010, 01:39:17 PM »
ooooh man. well an r6 wheel and rotors are going to be 8-9mm too wide.
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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May 16, 2010, 07:25:32 PM »
Would it be possable to fit a complete R6 front end? triples, forks, wheels and brakes or is the stem a different size?
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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May 16, 2010, 08:18:05 PM »
"brownwhale" has done this swap. he first tried the r6 triples, and found that they had a negative effect on the steering. after he crashed his bike, he hasn't been on since last year.
i almost think if i can shave a mm or 2 off the calipers that i would be safe. ß
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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BRAKE SITUATION RESOLVED
shaved 2 mil off the inside of the caliper. keeping OE 3 spoke brembos.
the machinist i've been working with kinda let me down. all he could do was come up with "what if " scenarios and wouldn't touch the calipers, so i found another guy.
seeing a CNC machine in action for the first time, it's breath takingly awesome. i know that not a real world.
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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Quote from: Düb Lüv on May 25, 2010, 04:21:53 PM
BRAKE SITUATION RESOLVED
shaved 2 mil off the inside of the caliper. keeping OE 3 spoke brembos.
the machinist i've been working with kinda let me down. all he could do was come up with "what if " scenarios and wouldn't touch the calipers, so i found another guy.
seeing a CNC machine in action for the first time, it's breath takingly awesome. i know that not a real world.
Did you take the calipers apart to see how thick the wall that you machined is?
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May 25, 2010, 06:34:20 PM »
yeah i did. it was originally 6.01mm
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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May 25, 2010, 10:39:12 PM »
Quote from: Düb Lüv on May 25, 2010, 04:21:53 PM
the machinist i've been working with kinda let me down. all he could do was come up with "what if " scenarios and wouldn't touch the calipers, so i found another guy.
Dont blame him. I mean, from an engineering perspective, the brakes need to be thick to dissipate heat and be ridgid enough to not break. So he probably has a fear of the brake calipers breaking open from al lthe heat and pressure, then you running right into a wall. And then hell have a guilty conscious. Ofcourse, from a machinist point of view, you got hire to shave 2mills off. why you want it done, is not his problem, i just know how to use the damn machine. lol
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Re: 95 m900 R6 fork swap (pics)
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May 26, 2010, 05:00:30 AM »
i told him i understand that he didn't want to do it. i was almost on the path of buying monoblock brembos. i called and talked to fred at yoyo and explained what i was doing, he said that's not going to hurt anything. he might be an engineer or anything, but somebody else with my same understanding.
when i ride i don't have frequent stops, not going over 70mph, and probably will never see a track. i don't think the pistons will blow out or anything, but i always do a pre-ride look over before riding anyway.
random info, but when i went to physical therapy yesterday, i was able to find out my clamp force of my hand. a mire 110lbs.
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