Damned 796 vs 696

[Edward_Wolf]

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/19/ducati-officially-rolls-out-monster-796-monster-art-customizati/

Damned, they are releasing a new monster, looks better then the 696 (I just bought one in january) and they have a new Art Program for Monster.


Does anyone wanna buy my 696+???   

[hcomp]

Derby!

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=36256.0

Either way, I wish they would give the option to keep the black frame....I'm kinda partial to it now on my 696.

[muskrat]

And the megaphones stayed  i do like the style and the overall aesthetics but the headlight and pipe cross over just don't do it for me.  I bet u money the dealer who sold you the bike knew about the changes 
WTF is wrong with Ducati?

[Edward_Wolf]

I did send yesterday a mail to my dealer, wondering what they will tell. I asked for a offer to take back my 696+ and sell a new 796 to me. I'll let you know what they will tell.

[RC Fan]

  I bet u money the dealer who sold you the bike knew about the changes 
WTF is wrong with Ducati?

I've got to assume the 696 is on it's way out.  Isn't there like one horsepower difference between the two?

[Edward_Wolf]

I've got to assume the 696 is on it's way out.  Isn't there like one horsepower difference between the two?

although the 796 will have some budget aspects, it's still not an entry-level bike. The seat height will be the same 31.9 inches as the 1100 (the 696 is 30.3 inches), and it also gets the five-spoke Marchesini wheels and curvy single-sided swingarm from its big brother. The fork will likely be non-adjustable. Although the 796 motor in the Hypermotard makes just one more horse than the 696, that power comes on much sooner than the 696: the torque peak of 55.7 foot-pounds is at 6250 rpm (just a gear down from highway-cruising rev range), where 50.6 foot-pounds from the 696 appears at 7750 rpm. So the new Monster will take up a niche not seen since the Monster S2R 800 was dropped in 2008: lower pricing and less power than the 1100cc two-valve model, but not as basic or budget-oriented as the entry-level bike.

And i think M696 = 80HP and M796 = 87HP

[RC Fan]

although the 796 will have some budget aspects, it's still not an entry-level bike. The seat height will be the same 31.9 inches as the 1100 (the 696 is 30.3 inches), and it also gets the five-spoke Marchesini wheels and curvy single-sided swingarm from its big brother. The fork will likely be non-adjustable. Although the 796 motor in the Hypermotard makes just one more horse than the 696, that power comes on much sooner than the 696: the torque peak of 55.7 foot-pounds is at 6250 rpm (just a gear down from highway-cruising rev range), where 50.6 foot-pounds from the 696 appears at 7750 rpm. So the new Monster will take up a niche not seen since the Monster S2R 800 was dropped in 2008: lower pricing and less power than the 1100cc two-valve model, but not as basic or budget-oriented as the entry-level bike.

And i think M696 = 80HP and M796 = 87HP

A beefier front fork would be lovely.

[mikeb]

A beefier front fork would be lovely.

Define beefier. 

[Qfactor]

probably means stiffer... or better valving?

Q

[RC Fan]

probably means stiffer... or better valving?

Q

Indeed. 

[mikeb]

probably means stiffer... or better valving?

Q

Indeed. 

How can you tell from the bike description it needs to be stiffer?

[RC Fan]

How can you tell from the bike description it needs to be stiffer?

I can tell from my 696.  It sounds like the suspension will be carried over.

[mikeb]

I can tell from my 696.  It sounds like the suspension will be carried over.

Probably so.

Have you tried stiffer springs in your 696?  Stiffer forks are an easy fix.

[junior varsity]

Probably so.

Have you tried stiffer springs in your 696?  Stiffer forks are an easy fix.

+1.

WTF is wrong with Ducati?

cry baby owners.

[RC Fan]

Probably so.

Have you tried stiffer springs in your 696?  Stiffer forks are an easy fix.

I don't have a whole lot of knowledge in the specifics, but I had read that others had tried various solutions, but because of the stock 696 set-up, stiffer springs weren't an option.