Police Work Van

[ducmeister]

Maybe we all do substantially less than the speed limit for a while.  After all, slower is of course safer.   The ensuing traffic chaos would certainly bring our displeasure to the attention of the authorities and I'm sure that the accident rate would actually rise.

[CairnsDuc]

Good Theory Ducmeister, They tried that in the UK, didn't work, because the vast majority were being pinged for only silly amounts over the limits.
consequently the General Public started taking matters into there own hands.
http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm
Like the ones shown on the above listed Site.

Not that I am saying people should take the law into there owns hands, Just providing the link for Reference purposes...Just Sayin 

[Betty]

consequently the General Public started taking matters into there own hands.
http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm
Like the ones shown on the above listed Site.

That's why in NSW they have cameras watching the cameras.

I wonder if they keep these 'camera cars' away from certain socio-economic areas due to fear of fire-bombing (whilst the operators are inside)?

[CairnsDuc]

They do that in the UK also, doesn't work, one guy carries the Tyre, another the petrol in a Bag or Softdrink Bottle

Put on your Balaclava, Throw, Splash, light and run.......

Over and done in about 20 seconds, for them, but when the Tyre catches, well the damage is done. 

Or the Paint Spray can on an Extension arm for the Gantry Camera's.


Not that I would suggest anyone do this of course, that would be very Irresponsible and Illegal.   

[DUCMONROB]

Or the Paint Spray can on an Extension arm for the Gantry Camera's.


Not that I would suggest anyone do this of course, that would be very Irresponsible and Illegal.   

Have you noticed alot of the NSW cams have a little spy cam watching the main cam for people doing exactly the above.

Rob

[dragonworld.]

Heh, spray/disable the spy cam first?? 

Hypothetically speaking of course!! 

[Ita]

Write a letter to every labor MP telling them how make the beast with two backsed this is and explain why it should return to the 10% + 3kph that it was untill they got their greedy cash grabbing hands onto it...

Ita

[CairnsDuc]

But People have been writing Letters Ita, From the General Public to Motoring/Motorcycling groups and and has it made any difference?
No, they just rolled out more of the bloody Cameras and trotted out the same tired rhetoric that is was to save lives, we are all speeders
and that we should all think of the Children.

Now, getting back to Naughty people damaging the Cameras.  

Civil Disobedience has worked quite well in the UK, quite a number of Cameras have been removed due to the Constant destruction
of the Cameras. I have a friend who lives in the UK, and where he is located they went from 2 Cameras to nearly 30 in about 6 months.
A lot of the general public got pinged on Roads that had been the same speed limits for years, Camera went in, speed limit dropped
at the same time and people got caught.
So the Public retaliated, Cameras were Burnt, Cameras were knocked down and run into. Now they only have about 4 Cameras left
in the area that still work (And he suspects they won't last much longer)
at 10's of Thousands of Pounds or more to replace when they get damaged or destroyed, The Councils ran out of money to replace them
and when they got knocked down or burnt, they stayed down.

And apparently it's not unusual to hear of the Safety Team Camera vans being attacked and being vandalized even with the Operator
still sitting in the van.

[dragonworld.]

BTW, this is more of what the "Safety Nazis" are doing here in Vic. 


http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/pub/101772-melbournes-new-super-speed-cameras-locations.html

[FIFO]

Caught a bit on the news today the Vic gov have got Webber back on side after he called Vic the nanny state , after Hamilton got done for doing burnouts.
Can't find the story, but some good reading in the google link.

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&cr=countryAU&q=mark+webber+nanny+state&start=0&sa=N

[CairnsDuc]

But Webber was right, Victoria is becoming the Nanny State, With Queensland ramming it's nose right up Victoria's arse getting high
off the fumes and copying everything it does because it wants to be one of the Kewl kids too.

And if Webber backs down from his comments, then he's a tool.

Screw it! let's call it like it is, we are becoming the Nanny Nation.

[feral]

I have to be careful what I say last time I spoke what I thought about Coppers    [leo]I got into Troble form Moderators !!!!!!

What Makes me laugh is the quote" there is no such thing as safe speeding " Ask a copper when they have sped to pull you over about that and they say but I have done a course so there is such a thing as safe speeding then ??


What happened In the NT when they put a speed limit on the Unrestrected roads the road toll went up .

[ungeheuer]

.....ADRs demand that the instrument you use to measure your vehicle's speed needs by law to be no more accurate out of the factory than +/- 5% (a 10% tolerance).  Yet VicPol dont allow the driver 5% over before you get a ticket in the mail.  So the entirely reasonable question is this:  How can you be expected to maintain your speed to an accuracy greater than that required of the speedometer?...

Senior Constable Trevor Bergman, I wish you success    >>  http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/motorists-speeding-fines-could-be-overturned-as-cop-takes-on-cameras/story-e6frf7jo-1225866984157

[CairnsDuc]

And he is 100% correct, how can you be expected to be within the 5% tolerance expected by the Victorian state government,
when the ADR's allow up to a 10% error in the Speedo of your car.

I know that for me to be doing 100KPH on my Nav systems I have to be doing about 109 on the car's speedo, and I have
run both our GPS unit's at the same time to confirm that one was not be generous or lagging behind, they both said the
same speed Spot on 100KPH, set the cruise control, then check the speedo of the car (An 09 Hyundai Getz) sure enough 109
on the speedo.
Took the Wife's 07 Corolla out, both Nav's set up again, straight bit of road, bring the car up to 100KPH on the Nav's set the cruise
Speedo says 106.

I know the Bosses Mercedes is the other way, his speedo says he's doing 93 when the GPS says he doing 100, he also tried another
GPS to ensure it wasn't his GPS lying to him, same result.

I will give Qld that, at least if you anything up to 10k's over (Unless the cop is having a bad day) they will generally give you the
"Slow Down" wave or the highway patrol will flash the lights at you, give you the "Slow down" and let you go on your merry way.
And more often than not the Speed Camera's are also set to about a 10% tolerance as well.

They haven't gotten as Anal as Victoria yet. So I will watch this case with much interest.  

[dragonworld.]

Yes , very interested in this one!! 

Although, as has happened many times in the past, unless the media keep on it, the Guvmint/Plods will "bury" it! Never again to see the light of day.

Because if the public at large get hold of it the enforcemment agencies are screwed for the lying, kniving revenue raising slimeballs that they are!

Bring it on!! Go TREV. I'd chuck some money at him for a fighting fund!