Gearing Guru

Started by Monsterlover, May 01, 2010, 12:32:33 PM

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Monsterlover

I'm not sure what made me think of it but whatever happened to that guy?

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Ddan

I've wondered about him a few times.  He had a fairly tumultuous time on TOB
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Speeddog

He's not here AFAIK, but he's still around.
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cyrus buelton

I never understood why you'd pay him to switch your ratio when you can read and figure it out on your own.
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lethe

Quote from: cyrus buelton on May 02, 2010, 05:21:06 AM
I never understood why you'd pay him to switch your ratio when you can read and figure it out on your own.
People pay good money for dumber things than that.
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Monsterlover

Quote from: cyrus buelton on May 02, 2010, 05:21:06 AM
I never understood why you'd pay him to switch your ratio when you can read and figure it out on your own.




I thought the same.

Some people found value in his service though.
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derby

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cyrus buelton

Quote from: lethe on May 02, 2010, 05:49:58 AM
People pay good money for dumber things than that.

Good point

Quote from: Monsterlover on May 02, 2010, 05:52:41 AM
Some people found value in his service though.

Which easily could have been done on their own.


Going down in the front is like going two teeth up in the back.

My 750 is geared out at a 43 rear and a 15t front. Same as if I would have a stock rear and a 14t front. Kills top end.


I just never found the point in paying the guy 30$ or whatever it costs to tell you the obvious.

Hell, doesn't CA-Cycleworks offer the same sort of service? I know he has all the stock gearing on his website for all monsters and I am sure if you called, he'd be glad to help.

I just checked and it looks like the guide isn't there anymore.

Pretty easy to just count em, though.


I wanted to go up 2 on the back of my S4r since I do mostly city riding, so I'd like a bit more zip verse lugging around in akward gears. However, since i am getting the engine work done, I am not sure that is the best idea. (degreed cams, etc).
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Monsterlover

Quote from: derby on May 02, 2010, 05:54:36 AM
around here:  http://www.ssrfanatic.com




How do you know this?!?

Is there anything you cannot find on the internet?

CAT 5 jack in you neck?

;)
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derby

Quote from: cyrus buelton on May 02, 2010, 05:59:42 AM
Good point

Which easily could have been done on their own.


Going down in the front is like going two teeth up in the back.

My 750 is geared out at a 43 rear and a 15t front. Same as if I would have a stock rear and a 14t front. Kills top end.


I just never found the point in paying the guy 30$ or whatever it costs to tell you the obvious.

Hell, doesn't CA-Cycleworks offer the same sort of service? I know he has all the stock gearing on his website for all monsters and I am sure if you called, he'd be glad to help.

I just checked and it looks like the guide isn't there anymore.

Pretty easy to just count em, though.


I wanted to go up 2 on the back of my S4r since I do mostly city riding, so I'd like a bit more zip verse lugging around in akward gears. However, since i am getting the engine work done, I am not sure that is the best idea. (degreed cams, etc).

i seem to remember that his calculations also took into account the torque curve, rpm, speed, and desired operating conditions (freeway or twisties in ___ gear at ___ rpm).

not that somebody with some math/spreadsheet skills couldn't do the same, but his "service" wasn't just "1 tooth down in the front is the same as 3 up in the rear."

a "simple" chart will tell you that:

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derby

Quote from: Monsterlover on May 02, 2010, 06:02:18 AM

How do you know this?!?

Is there anything you cannot find on the internet?

CAT 5 jack in you neck?

;)

;D

i just happened to remember his name and his fondness for that "truck."

google search for "gearing guru" gets you close enough.
-- derby

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GAAN

his knowledge base seemed solid

I'd definetly use him before a blind gear change in a car or truck

but

on a motorcycle there isn't that much science to it

and

the loss isn't that big if you choose the wrong ratio

Monsterlover

"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**