Cold Tire PWNAGE

[sleeperbold]

Driving home tonight in my 350Z and ended up stopping at a red light. I heard the familiar Ducati sound and looked to the left and saw a beautiful new pearl white 696 crossing the intersection and turning left. First thing I noticed was that the guy was going way too fast. I thought "oh no...", I then see him lean the bike quite far over and I thought "whoa there rossi...this is not going to end well.." Next thing I hear him rev it mid turn and the rear breaks loose, catches and the dude high sides right in front of me! 

Guy is moving, gets up, and is getting his bike together. I pull over to make sure he's ok. He appears to be a new rider. I said something to him about cold tires and waiting till they warm up a bit before going balls to the wall. He seemed noobish and had no idea that tires have temperatures, but whatevs.  Sucks for him though. Rear brake lever, jeans, rizoma bar ends and mirrors, confidence, and frame sliders trashed.

Be safe out there and remember to let them there tires warm up!!  [moto]

[kopfjäger]

I hope you told him about the DMF. 

[mstevens]

I just rode my wife's new 696 home from the dealer tonight - it's 60 miles away with stretches of interstate, and she's not confident enough for that ride.

You'd better believe I was taking it easy in the traffic circle a couple of miles from the shop!

[pennyrobber]

I hope you told him about the DMF. 

+1

[slyfox]

IMO it's about going too fast & panic ..... not about cold tires at all ......

[Rameses]

I just rode my wife's new 696 home from the dealer tonight - it's 60 miles away with stretches of interstate, and she's not confident enough for that ride.

You'd better believe I was taking it easy in the traffic circle a couple of miles from the shop!

I remember riding my Hyper around a traffic circle about a week after I got it.

I was still getting used to the riding position and everything having come right off riding an S4 with really low clip-ons.

I felt like I'd fallen off a step ladder when I tipped into that circle.

 

[zooom]

Next thing I hear him rev it mid turn and the rear breaks loose, catches and the dude high sides right in front of me!     [moto]

I wouldn't say cold tires so much....I'd say too much throttle too early.....definitely sounds like a noob mistake of poor throttle control and getting hamfisted with the gas....

shitty way to have to learn that lesson...that is...if he learned it!

[sleeperbold]

IMO it's about going too fast & panic ..... not about cold tires at all ......

I wouldn't say cold tires so much....I'd say too much throttle too early.....definitely sounds like a noob mistake of poor throttle control and getting hamfisted with the gas....shitty way to have to learn that lesson...that is...if he learned it!

Yeah, he was a bit ambitious with the throttle mid-turn, but even before then, the way he accelerated into the intersection was not "ideal" for the time of night and the type of turn.  He was leaving a community college parking lot after evening classes so I'm guessing it had been parked for a bit. His frame sliders def worked though. Not a scratch on the bodywork. 

[Greg]

Cold tires may have been a factor, but I never trust intersections as they are often very slippery.

[zooom]

re:the tires.....if they are the stock tires ( which I have no clue what came on a 696 from the factory), temperatures wouldn't be as much of an issue for most areas here in the USA at this time of year. if at some point he had upgraded to something like Michelin Pilot Pure's or some other more track oriented tire...I'd say sure...but the confidence and grip of most street tires above 50 degrees  isn't a factor as they are better than most of us would like to think, unless the rider was doing something to exceed the limitations of the tires (ie: too much lean angle + too much throttle + too much speed = rider down)

[duccarlos]

+1 I'm pretty sure that tire temp had nothing to do with this. He probably hit a slippery patch as he was accelerating out of his turn. Maybe hit a bump.

[ducpainter]

A fistfull of throttle while leaned over never ends well.

It really doesn't matter what tire or temp.

[Spidey]

Cold brain, not cold tires.  And that doesn't sound like bad damage at all for a high side.  They're particularly unfriendly to bikes. 

[duccarlos]

A friend of mine once told me that I could not out ride a street tire.

[Popeye the Sailor]

A friend of mine once told me that I could not out ride a street tire.

You think he was commenting on the tires ability.....


or yours?