Need tips on seal removal and cush drive removal

Started by Monsterlover, May 09, 2010, 11:40:58 AM

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Monsterlover

Im getting a bunch of stuff ready for powdercoating (and read all the threads I could find with that search term)

On the right side cover, how do I get that seal/bronze bearing out (under the oil pressure sensor) that supports that shaft?

I assume just pry it out, but with what?  Screwdriver?  I don't own a seal puller.  Will it survive the removal process?

How about the oil sight glass?  Im guessing push it in from the outside?

Last time I coated a wheel I couldn't get the cush drives out, so they died in the coating oven and all that remained was the outer ring.

I cant remember what I did to get them out.

Anyone know a way to remove the cush drives before coating (saves me $$$)

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DucHead

#1
Look 1/3 down the page of this thread:  http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=20215.0

Sight glass info there too.

That brass fitting will not come out.  I could not remove the brass seal without ruining it.  I bought another case cover on eBay.
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pennyrobber

I've heard of a trick to remove cush drives if you don't mind a bit of a mess. The idea is, you find a dowel rod that that has the same diameter as the hole in the cush drive. You then fill the hole up with grease. Then you take the dowel rod and stick it in the hole till the grease is compacted. Last, you hammer the free end of the dowel rod. The hydraulic pressure will push the cush drive out. As the cush drive comes out you need to add more grease to fill in the larger space that will be created behind the drive. I haven't tried this my self but credible sources have used the technique. 
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Monsterlover

To be blunt, your sources need to actually look at a ducati wheel before they dispense that advice ;)

that would work for a pilot bearing in a crankshaft but not here.

There is access to the back side of the cush drive bushing. You'd just be filling the hub up with grease...

"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

pennyrobber

Quote from: Monsterlover on May 10, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
To be blunt, your sources need to actually look at a ducati wheel before they dispense that advice ;)

that would work for a pilot bearing in a crankshaft but not here.

There is access to the back side of the cush drive bushing. You'd just be filling the hub up with grease...



But indeed it was a Ducati wheel, GT 1000 to be exact. I have an S2R1000 so obviously no need for this technique.
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gOoIe B

the sight glass pushes out from the inside out.  Use some sort of drift or appropriately-sized socket (match diameter as closely as possible) and hammer it out.

I did not remove the brass pushing under the oil pressure sensor.  I did have it covered up with hi-temp tape before the cover got baked though, and its a good thing, because those brass bushes WILL leak oil once they bake.  Same goes for the brake and shifter foot controls and their brass bushes.  Also made sure the bush in the clutch cover got blown out REALLY well before I reassembled, to ensure no blast media got in there.

FWIW, I haven't test ridden my bike yet, but its coming... soon...  [evil]

junior varsity

Quote from: gOoIe B on May 10, 2010, 09:53:43 AM
the sight glass pushes out from the inside out.  Use some sort of drift or appropriately-sized socket (match diameter as closely as possible) and hammer it out.

+1 but that is the extent of my knowledge here.

DucHead

You can push the sight glass out with your thumbs, see the cited thread above.
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Monsterlover

Quote from: gOoIe B on May 10, 2010, 09:53:43 AM
the sight glass pushes out from the inside out.  Use some sort of drift or appropriately-sized socket (match diameter as closely as possible) and hammer it out.


On the alternator cover it does, but I found out on the clutch side it's the opposite.  It comes out from outside --> in.

I thought the alternator side would be the same and wailed away.

I was wrong.

I destroyed the rubber gasket and snapped off the timing pointer.

:D
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**