Oil sensor in a M695???

Started by 8 lives, May 10, 2010, 06:01:53 PM

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8 lives

This is kinda a long shot question.  Last time when I changed my oil I accidentally filled it up too much but didn't realize it right away.  After changing the oil I started experiencing starting issues where I would turn on the bike and push the start button nothing would happen.  Everything else has been normal up to this point.  If I keep the bike in the upright position and fiddle with the switches a bit it will eventually start up.  My question is, is there a sensor that reads oil level and if its too high prevents the bike from starting.  Today I drained the oil down to the normal operation levels and will have to wait and see what happens. 
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1KDS

Nope, only oil pressure sensor not level.  You may have a separate issue.
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8 lives

ok.  Kinda frustrating since this has been a intermittent problem.  I took it into a shop and they got it to start up no problem. 
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1KDS

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Quote from: 1KDS on May 10, 2010, 06:13:25 PM
Take a picture of the mechanic and tape it to the triple near the ignition.

Thats funny...


When you fiddle - what exactly are you doing?
1KDS is quite correct that it's just a pressure sensor that looks for a reading above a set point. 0- (I think) 1.4 bar and it'll trip the warning light. Above that and the light goes off. Beyond that, it's dumber than a box of rocks.

Folks who have over filled have reported running issues - it's not uncommon for oil to get blasted out the case breather in situations like that.

But your comment about the switches makes me wonder if it's not due to the oil level at all, but something else that popped up coincidentally at the same time
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Duck-Stew

As usual, yuu's comments are spot-on...

Have you drained some of the oil already?  Has this cured your problems?

If not, here's some electrical background into your bikes starting issues:
There's a clutch switch on the bike and a side-stand switch.  These aren't particularly very durable switches.  Your issue may be with one of those.

Do you have a volt/ohm meter available to you?
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Quote from: yuu on May 11, 2010, 04:45:49 AM
Thats funny...


When you fiddle - what exactly are you doing?
1KDS is quite correct that it's just a pressure sensor that looks for a reading above a set point. 0- (I think) 1.4 bar and it'll trip the warning light. Above that and the light goes off. Beyond that, it's dumber than a box of rocks.

Folks who have over filled have reported running issues - it's not uncommon for oil to get blasted out the case breather in situations like that.

But your comment about the switches makes me wonder if it's not due to the oil level at all, but something else that popped up coincidentally at the same time

When I fiddle around I turn the ignition and kill switch to on and off several times and occasionally hit the start button.  There seems to be no ryhm or reason to how long I have to play around with it before it starts. 
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8 lives

Quote from: Duck-Stew on May 11, 2010, 04:59:40 AM
As usual, yuu's comments are spot-on...

Have you drained some of the oil already?  Has this cured your problems?

If not, here's some electrical background into your bikes starting issues:
There's a clutch switch on the bike and a side-stand switch.  These aren't particularly very durable switches.  Your issue may be with one of those.

Do you have a volt/ohm meter available to you?

Yesterday I drained the oil down to normal operating level according to the site glass window.  I did have some issue starting after draining but not as much as before.  I thought I would let it sit for a while before I try it again in case it was somehow related to oil level.  I am going to try it later on tonight and see what happens.  I don't have a volt/ohm meter to test anything with. 
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Christian

What year/model is the bike?

On the older starter switches, there was weird behavior if they were tightened too much on the bar. Loosening the two screws on the back would help.

It sounds like your issue is electrical and with the starter switch, if it doesn't start and fiddling with it makes it start.

DaFoose

I know that problem. Same exact (from the sound of it) thing happend to me. Although i don't have the same model as you. Trace the wires from the starter switch back to the plug. Tighten and viola fixed. I could not figure it out, but, pushed them together and it was fixed. Haven't had that problem since.

It was very intermittent although got progessively worse (as the plug got looser) until it was fixed. Let me know!
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8 lives

Turned out to be a cracked wire in the wiring harness.  All fixed now.
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