Front axle spacer questions

Started by djrashonal, May 22, 2010, 11:52:46 AM

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djrashonal

so I went to go put my front end back together today with my new 999 forks  (courtesy of Taftonomos) I put everything together and found out that my spacer is too long so it doesnt allow the axle to go far enough in to line up the adjustment holes.

So I have 3 different spacers.
1 -30mm
1-12.5mm
1-16.5mm

My goal is to get a total of 24-25mm

as I see it my options are

A- Cut down the 30mm spacer
B- Cut down one of the other two and use them together
C- Buy a completely new spacer somewhere
D- use the 16.5mm spacer and buy some washers

I've found some washers at Mcmaster and they're about 10 bucks for 5, but havent found a source for the spacers themselves.

My questions are:

What is the best material to use for the spacer?
Are there materials I should avoid?
What would be the most cost effective solution?

Anything I'm missing/Not taking into account?
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djrashonal

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DarkStaR

I know motowheels has billet machined spacers (not on the web site) that they include with the OZ wheels they sell for specific applications.

For an example; I installed those OZ wheels on a SC, and black billet spacers for both sides and the rotors were supplied.

Speeddog

I've got a 999 spacer, part #71311973A, says it's for an '03.

It's 21mm long, 25mm ID, 35mm OD.

If you *really* need 25mm, cut down the 30mm one.

Multiple spacers, or worse yet, multiple washers, are a royal PITA.


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djrashonal

Quote from: Speeddog on May 22, 2010, 02:18:30 PM
I've got a 999 spacer, part #71311973A, says it's for an '03.

It's 21mm long, 25mm ID, 35mm OD.

If you *really* need 25mm, cut down the 30mm one.

Multiple spacers, or worse yet, multiple washers, are a royal PITA.

Hmmm....is this spacer one are you willing to part with? I'd be a lot happier going with OEM than jerry-riggin it.



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Speeddog

Yah, I'll part with it, no sweat.

I'm not sure it's the *right* spacer for your mix of parts, as the 999's had the 5-bolt front wheels, and I'm assuming you're using the S4 front wheel.
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djrashonal

I'VE got 05 m1000 rims on it right now with full floating rotors :-) I'll checkthe bolt pattern this evening
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djrashonal

yea, the 05 M1000 rim i've got on there is a 6 bolt pattern. I'm new to swapping forks so how does this impact what I have? I thought that I could just slide everything together?

I've got everything bolted up, except the wheel isnt dead center and the access for the lower adjustment isnt lining up with the hole for the axle
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corey

just did the 999 fork swap on my s2r800.
the 999 rotors stock have an offset of 5mm. your monster has an offset of ZERO, unless you changed that when messing with your rotors. What this means is that you will need to either space your rotors 5mm further out from their current location in regards to the wheel, or space your calipers 5mm closer.
I chose to space the calipers IN, as the 5mm thick washers with a 2cm outer diameter, and 1cm inner diameter were easy to produce. I also chose to get longer (and fancier) caliper bolts, as i was not comfortable with amount of thread in the caliper with the stock bolts.

As far as axle spacers go, i used my stock wheel, axle, and spacers. I had a 999 axle and spacers, but they were nowhere NEAR working out. I still need to drill holes in my axle for the compression adjustment. If you are using the same wheel, axle, and spacers as before you swapped forks, everything should still work, not sure why they aren't. The forks are the same distance apart, and the axle is the same as before, and the wheel is the same as before, so it should work fine.

the ONLY thing that i can think of, is you put your wheel in there backwards (wrong rotation). This would cause an off center wheel even if the axle and spacers were in there correctly.
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djrashonal

The wheel thing was my first thought, but I triple checked everything. Im not using the same axle/spacers as before because I had a GSX-R front end so it's not quite compatible.

I got an S4R axle and it came with a 30mm spacer which doesnt allow the axle to travel far enough through. I thought  I was going to need spacers but i think my wheels have some already from the GSXR swap. there are some pictures in this album of the space between the rotor and the wheel

http://gallery.me.com/afakhori#100500

let me know what you think. It seems like there is a 5-6mm spacer on either side of the wheel
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Speeddog

How wide are those fork bottoms where the axle goes through?

And are they symmetrical about the fork leg centerline?
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corey

do the part numbers for the S4R and S2R1000 axles match up?
if not, that axle might not be the direct fit axle for your wheel.
i believe the S4R axle is the same as the 999 axle, and is the only monster axle not compatible directly with all other monsters...
the S2R1000 (and 800) have a different axle... and spacers.

i could also be entirely mistaken...

can you snap a shot of your axle and spacers alone?
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DarkStaR

Quote from: corey on May 24, 2010, 05:46:11 PM
do the part numbers for the S4R and S2R1000 axles match up?
if not, that axle might not be the direct fit axle for your wheel.
i believe the S4R axle is the same as the 999 axle, and is the only monster axle not compatible directly with all other monsters...
the S2R1000 (and 800) have a different axle... and spacers.

i could also be entirely mistaken...

can you snap a shot of your axle and spacers alone?

Pretty sure most monsters pre S4RT/S w/ the 25mm axles are the same...+/- holes and finish.

Not sure about S4RT/S, 696, 796, and 1100 though.