Dry clutch+wheelies=?????

[flynbulldog]

No problems dry clutching wheelies up, but I prefer power wheelies ;- )
The clutch can get grabby when warm, but no worries beyond that - oil starvation may be a bigger concern.

Sorry, that would be the Hypermotard!

Ooops wrong again, that hooligan of Ducati's would be the streetfighter...  

[ozzys4r]

I don't do clutch up wheelies ... the shortest amount of time a Barnett dry clutch lasted me was 30,000 miles. 

Though yes, use the clutch to do wheelies and it won't last 3000 miles. No excuse for anyone to trash a great brand name, though.

Do you work for them!? Just cause they have a name does not mean people shouldnt speak the truth about the product... 3000 miles is BS out of clutch, wheelies or not!

[MadDuck]

Do you work for them!? Just cause they have a name does not mean people shouldnt speak the truth about the product... 3000 miles is BS out of clutch, wheelies or not!

He doesn't work for them but he sells their product.  Everyone's mileage will vary but I'm not hard on machinery and I don't wheelie, clutch up or otherwise. I also know my way around clutch usage & have been a mechanic for almost 40 years. All I'm doing is reporting my first hand experience with the brand that was mentioned. If someone gets 20,000 or 30,000 miles out of it then that's great. I didn't even make 5,000 so I'll never buy a set of plates from them again unless they are the absolute last resort. Just sayin'.

[Howie]

Do you work for them!? Just cause they have a name does not mean people shouldnt speak the truth about the product... 3000 miles is BS out of clutch, wheelies or not!

Not really.  Bad clutch control will lead to clutch failure, even without doing wheelies.  I remember seeing a 748 at the dealer for it's first service back around '01.  600 miles, fried OEM clutch, broken chain, dropped on both sides.

Back in the '70s I worked in a Fiat/Volvo dealer.  We had a customer with a 4 speed 128.  New clutch every 1000 miles.  You could smell the burning as he pulled away from the dealership.

[silentbob]

I have used a couple of barnett clutch packs and they suck.  In the same bike with the same use they get about one tenth the life of an oem pack.

[BikerGoddess]

I'm wondering why Desmoquattro hasn't chimed in on this discussion yet? He can wheelie just about any bike--695, S4R, 1198s, Aprilia, Honda, you name it. He's happy to teach you how to do it. In fact, we even held a wheelie clinic a few years ago.

[Ddan]

I've got at least 15k on the Barnett clutch in my Monster and no noticeable wear.  I don't beat the snot out of it, but I certainly don't baby it either.  I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.

[mattc7]

from what I've seen, Barnett makes the most inconsistent ducati replacement clutches in the market.

The same rider can get 15k out of one pack then 3k on the next.

I wouldn't waste my time on one, when the OEM packs aren't that much more, and are quality pieces.

[DNAspark99]

cracked frame and blown fork seals?  
well, it's certainly not *impossible*, and probably much more likely if you're still in the _learning_ phase, but with proper 'wheelie technique' the landings are actually fairly smooth and easily absorbed by the suspension. Just don't slam it back down too often and you shouldn't have an issue...

'course, I did have my fair share of 'nut slammers' in the beginning, but that was on a Jbike (gsxr), and they certainly take more abuse than the duc!

...as for the 'gear', it must be due to the fact that I don't consider myself a 'stunta'. I prefer to wheelie from corner to corner, not back and forth in a parking lot! 

[krista]

Do you work for them!? Just cause they have a name does not mean people shouldnt speak the truth about the product... 3000 miles is BS out of clutch, wheelies or not!

The point I was trying to make is that people on the DMF are sometimes too quick to bash things/products/people without regard to thought, intelligence, or fact.

Was that YOUR bike with 3000 mile life clutch? No. So you adding to this conversation is libelous writing against Barnett. Aside from that, it is poor form and rude behavior.

We have sold a few thousand Barnett clutches over the last 17 years. Are some not perfect? Yes. I can recall 3 or 4 people who got new clutches and something wasn't right on their setup (either from other parts or ??).

The real problem is that most of YOU, the people on forums, are too lazy to actually pick up the phone and CALL the manufacturer of the product or dealer who sold it. So instead of providing the critical feedback about a problem, you pregnant dog and moan all over the forums and expect Barnett to have read your mind and know there's a problem. If you actually arse to CALL Barnett, you'll find a sincere concern about their products' performance and a desire to make the situation right for the customer. They will normally talk about the situation and send out new parts. I know of this one time (in band camp) when Barnett authorized us to refund the customer and then they sent us a replacement kit for our stock.

We sell the products we sell because they are quality to begin with and are backed by a manufacturer that helps us by quickly handling customer issues. If something isn't quality, we get phone calls about it, which interferes with getting current orders shipped (ie, costs us money). If the manufacturer doesn't stand behind their product, we get left out to dry (which costs us more money).

IMHO, Ducatis are the absolute worst about clutches. Their wet clutches don't behave the way a similar Japanese made bike's wet clutch does. And the dry clutches are all supposed to be the same, yet from one bike to the next, there is a variance of effective clutch pack height.

Anyhow, as usual, my voice of reason will fall upon deaf ears... but I try to help people understand so that if the sponge between the ears can engage, reason might happen instead of emotional response.


Chris

[RichD]

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