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Started by Monsterlover, June 01, 2010, 05:16:06 PM

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ducpainter

#60
June 13, 2010, 04:05:47 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on June 13, 2010, 03:48:56 PM
Gotcha. . .

done many a car audio install in my day.

that being said, there's no way the stock cables are 6 gauge.  Id guess 10 at best.  At least on my bike. . .

I have a bunch of leftover power and ground wire (8 gage and 4 gage) and the 8's are slightly bigger than the stock wire (insulation OD)

Even if they were the same gage I'd bet that my wire would pass more juice as they're braided copper and very flexible whereas the stock wire is pretty stiff.
You really can't go by insulation od.

Just sayin'
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Monsterlover

#61
June 13, 2010, 04:29:43 PM
I know, I know.

I'll peal back the insulation and measure it

Will report back ;D
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

DesmoDiva

#62
June 13, 2010, 04:41:50 PM
 [clap] [clap] [bow_down] [bow_down] [bacon] [bacon]


B wants to know which model of KTM that is??   ;D
'01 ST4 Yellow
'02 ST4s Yellow

Monsterlover

#63
June 13, 2010, 04:53:44 PM
Prototype super duke never released to the public ;D
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

DesmoDiva

#64
June 13, 2010, 04:58:25 PM
You must have got a killer deal on it!! 


:-*
'01 ST4 Yellow
'02 ST4s Yellow

Monsterlover

#65
June 13, 2010, 05:07:03 PM
Last year yeah.

After destroying the last motor and finishing this rebuild I probably can't afford to get rid of it [laugh]
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

Duck-Stew

#66
June 13, 2010, 05:40:32 PM
All the stock cables I've played with were 6ga...  Maybe someone did a switch-er-oo on you.
Bike-less Portuguese immigrant enjoying life.

ducpainter

#67
June 14, 2010, 01:14:12 AM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on June 13, 2010, 05:40:32 PM
All the stock cables I've played with were 6ga...  Maybe someone did a switch-er-oo on you.
I never changed them.

I think he's assuming the od reflects 'normal' insulation thickness.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


TJR178

#68
June 14, 2010, 03:51:05 AM
Sweet man!  I can't believe it looks like that after seeing it sprawled across the floor only a few weeks ago.

[clap]

Monsterlover

#69
June 14, 2010, 04:40:06 AM
When are we doing yours?

[evil]
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

Monsterlover

#70
June 14, 2010, 11:14:02 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on June 14, 2010, 01:14:12 AM
I never changed them.

I think he's assuming the od reflects 'normal' insulation thickness.

No. . .

the 8 gage I have is only slightly larger than the wire on the SS (od) so that leads me to believe that the wire on the duc is 8 or smaller.

Like I said, I'm gonna measure it.
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

♣ McKraut ♣

#71
June 14, 2010, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on June 14, 2010, 11:14:02 AM
No. . .

the 8 gage I have is only slightly larger than the wire on the SS (od) so that leads me to believe that the wire on the duc is 8 or smaller.

Like I said, I'm gonna measure it.

what would be an optimal ground cable gauge for upgrade purposes?  would it be different for the liquid cooled bikes?  i've thought about doing this on suggestions from others (in re: easier starting of the engine), but wasn't sure what exactly i would be looking for in terms of gauge etc.

btw really nice work on the rebuild   [thumbsup]
2001 M600 Dark  2005 S2R Dark  2001 M750  1996 900 SS/SP  2005 S4R
-  Dallas, TX

Monsterlover

#72
June 14, 2010, 12:12:37 PM
Thanks!

Should be no difference for a liquid cooled bike.  If you have 10 gage now, or 8, you could step up one size larger (8 or 6)
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

Duck-Stew

#73
June 14, 2010, 02:51:19 PM
From my research, stock cables are 6ga so an upgrade would be to go to 4ga.
Bike-less Portuguese immigrant enjoying life.

Monsterlover

#74
June 14, 2010, 03:11:54 PM
Well, here's what I found.

The 8awg wire I have is Phoenix Gold wire and it's labeled as 8 awg.

I cut back some insulation on the ground and starter cables and they measure .190"

As does my 8awg wire.

According to all the charts I just found with google, .190 wire diameter puts it between 5 and 4 awg.

My wire has thicker insulation on it.  My theory was that the bike's wire was also 8awg or smaller ( I was thinking 10. . .cloudy memory) which proved to be correct.

However, that's using my wire as "8awg" reference.

In reality it seems that it's really larger than 8.

Not sure what else to say except I guess I could throw on a piece of 4awg I have but in reality that's probably more like 2 [laugh]
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**
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