WASP Powerup kit for 696/1100 released Details and pics inside!! *dyno charts!

Started by Veloce-Fino, June 15, 2010, 01:11:54 PM

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mattc7

as it stands currently about 1350AUD =~ 1175US.  I'm sure that if enough people show interest in the US we could either work out a central import spot (to save on international shipping), or get Wasp to work out something

DucatiTorrey

Quote from: ungeheuer on June 20, 2010, 12:54:34 PM
Pay attention will ya DucatiTorrey  [roll] [laugh]

i know i know, i just scanned through it, been a while since i was online. anyways, too much $$ for me.
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DoWorkSon

Quote from: DucatiTorrey on June 20, 2010, 02:05:20 PM
i know i know, i just scanned through it, been a while since i was online. anyways, too much $$ for me.

Well, dont forget that this package also comes with the PC5 and all the other little goodies in the package...

And while many people pay that much $$$ for a new exhaust system, this package makes a whole lot more HP...

Their dyno shows that the termi system only made 1 HP and 1 lbs of torque over stock... Yet, this system bumped it up 7 HP and 4 lbs of torque.

So.... dollar for dollar this system is a whole lot better HP and TQ wise than the termi system.....

combined with a good free flowing exhaust system such as my awesome under-seat exhaust, this could produce some even better results.

I plan on buying one as soon as they are out, and having a local shop(power commander certified) tune and dyno my bike once I do
2003 BMW R1150GS- The commuter
2009 M696--SOLD

koko64

I emailed Wasp.
Checking to see if they have any intake bits for carbed Monsters. Found nothing on the site.
I enquired if they had a bell mouth/velocity stack thingo that would go on the end of a carb.

2015 Scrambler 800

He Man

Is it the PC5 that makes the power or is it those velocity stack thingys.

And the exhaust does more then just make power doesnt it? The fuel is added to make the bike more rideable so the curve should change as well... it also unlocks the O2 sensor area that the PC5 cant adjust.

Still makes me wonder why people are crunching cost per HP and all that when we're talking about 2v motors that arent used for racing.

Veloce-Fino

Quote from: He Man on June 20, 2010, 02:52:28 PM
Is it the PC5 that makes the power or is it those velocity stack thingys.

And the exhaust does more then just make power doesnt it? The fuel is added to make the bike more rideable so the curve should change as well... it also unlocks the O2 sensor area that the PC5 cant adjust.

Still makes me wonder why people are crunching cost per HP and all that when we're talking about 2v motors that arent used for racing.


For a motorhead like me it's not about being the fastest, I would have bough a sbk for that. It's about building a machine that is mine. Making it the best it can possibly be, something unique.

As far as dollar to hp the comparison to termi's makes perfect sense. People are spending $1300 to gain 1hp and 1tq and have their bike sound cool......This kit gives a major performance increase adds to the experience visually, and audibly, not to mention through the ass dyno. So what makes more sense, $1175 for real gains or $1300 for a "toomuchmoney" sticker.
Is this thing on?

DucatiTorrey

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Veloce-Fino

Is this thing on?

DoWorkSon

Quote from: He Man on June 20, 2010, 02:52:28 PM
Is it the PC5 that makes the power or is it those velocity stack thingys.

And the exhaust does more then just make power doesnt it? The fuel is added to make the bike more rideable so the curve should change as well... it also unlocks the O2 sensor area that the PC5 cant adjust.

Still makes me wonder why people are crunching cost per HP and all that when we're talking about 2v motors that arent used for racing.


More air into bike=more power(fuel/air are combined in combustion chamber, which ignites... The more of both, the more power)
Allowing exhaust to exit engine more quickly=more power

The PC5 just helps the ECU regulate how much fuel the engine gets when more air is added into the bike.... An open intake with much more, less restricted air coming into it would be too lean unless the computer was adding more fuel to compensate... The PC5 tells the engine to add more throughout the power curve and optimizes how much fuel is added to allow the most power.

So yes, it helps with power... But doesn't create it necessarily... You need the most amount of air/fuel into the combustion chamber to create power..

Who cares if it's a 2V bike... I mod because it's fun... Results are fun to see/feel/hear and this package allows that


2003 BMW R1150GS- The commuter
2009 M696--SOLD

He Man

Im not here to argue anything, im just pointing out my views.

If you had the Pod filters  + PCV and that pooped out 5hp then hte vstacks dont make a  big impact.

Quote from: WinSomeLoseNone on June 20, 2010, 03:48:27 PM
It's about building a machine that is mine.
So what makes more sense, $1175 for real gains or $1300 for a "toomuchmoney" sticker.

Kinda contradictory here. Just buy whatever makes you happy. I dont care how people spend their money if they have it. Im pretty jealous when I see those bikes and maybe ill be able to burn cash one day, but right now im poor, so the only thing that pisses me off is seeing a moded bike that never gets ridden. So as long as you ride that thing, i dont care if its $190 per hp. or $2000 per hp. As long as its not sitting in a garage collecting dust.


Veloce-Fino

Quote from: He Man on June 20, 2010, 09:51:57 PM
Im not here to argue anything, im just pointing out my views.

If you had the Pod filters  + PCV and that pooped out 5hp then hte vstacks dont make a  big impact.

Kinda contradictory here. Just buy whatever makes you happy. I dont care how people spend their money if they have it. Im pretty jealous when I see those bikes and maybe ill be able to burn cash one day, but right now im poor, so the only thing that pisses me off is seeing a moded bike that never gets ridden. So as long as you ride that thing, i dont care if its $190 per hp. or $2000 per hp. As long as its not sitting in a garage collecting dust.



Two hour fathers day ride yesterday. If it's dry I'm ridin'
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mattc7

I ride the piss out of mine when I'm not working.  Nowhere safe (and affordable) to park near the job. I commuted on it all last year when I had a safe parking place (including rain and mild snow).  

I track it often, and I have aspirations to throw it down against SVs and the likes when I can afford taking the race classes and picking up that licence. With proper rearsets/clipons/suspension it's as close to a supersport 1100 you can get (my goal purchasing it).

Airbox kit, cams -- which i picked up 1 week after getting my valves/belts done, so they're on the shelf till winter....if only I had picked them up a few days sooner --, port/polish, it should handle lightweight superbike against ss900s, ss1000s, sv650s like a champ.  I think the chasis is much more composed than any of the others (having ridden them all).  It's geared alittle short, so it suffers on straights.  alittle more top end, and I can use a smaller rear sprocket to keep the top end competitive.

Veloce-Fino

Quote from: mattc7 on June 21, 2010, 02:12:31 PM
I ride the piss out of mine when I'm not working.  Nowhere safe (and affordable) to park near the job. I commuted on it all last year when I had a safe parking place (including rain and mild snow).  

I track it often, and I have aspirations to throw it down against SVs and the likes when I can afford taking the race classes and picking up that licence. With proper rearsets/clipons/suspension it's as close to a supersport 1100 you can get (my goal purchasing it).

Airbox kit, cams -- which i picked up 1 week after getting my valves/belts done, so they're on the shelf till winter....if only I had picked them up a few days sooner --, port/polish, it should handle lightweight superbike against ss900s, ss1000s, sv650s like a champ.  I think the chasis is much more composed than any of the others (having ridden them all).  It's geared alittle short, so it suffers on straights.  alittle more top end, and I can use a smaller rear sprocket to keep the top end competitive.

Sounds pretty boss!

I ride EVERY day I can. Already put 1,000 miles on her since April. Kind of sucks at the same time because before you know it I'll have a high mileage bike  :( Which means it will be time to turn it into a track bike WOOT
Is this thing on?

Wasp

O.K - I have been meaning to post up here since our M1100 install on Friday but have been so busy that I have not been able to find the time.. Still short of time at the moment in fact specially considering that I cant work out how to up-load pics and graphs.

As discussed previously, the recipient bike was a bog stock standard M1100 with std exhaust (including cat) and ECU.
At 10,500kms the bike would be considered well and truely run in and it must have been "well" run in because it was a FREAK with a registered 94.6bhp and 75.5lbs tq.
A quick PUK install later and the new figures are 98.6bhp and 80.5lbs tq.
More impressive is the 7.5bhp and 6lbs tq increase at the 5000rpm range.
Not the "peak" figures that we normally get with free breathing exhausts, but pretty bloody healthy with standard exhaust + cat + ECU.

I have heaps of pics and graphs and even some video footage..
Can some one advise how images are up-loaded on this forum????

Greg.