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ducpainter

#720
December 18, 2010, 06:44:13 AM
Quote from: rgramjet on December 17, 2010, 09:27:40 PM
No merge!!!  One humorless mod having a bad day, one off color comment and all gun content is GONE!  F that!

Long live the two gun threads!!

edit:  Forgot the  ;D.  It has a calming effect Ive found.....


;D
I like that idea.

Then when you make the beast with two backs up I can kill two threads.  ;D

The grin does have a calming effect. :-*
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fastwin

#721
December 18, 2010, 07:23:08 AM
 [laugh]
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

fastwin

#722
December 18, 2010, 07:42:40 AM
Quote from: Punx Clever on December 17, 2010, 10:17:27 PM
Yes.  There is a really make the beast with two backsing stupid AR type gun... the ones with 11" barrels, but to comply with the NFA they WELD on a 5.5" "flash suppressor" so the barrel is legally 16.5 inches... totally negating the purpose (and a very limited one that it is) of having an 11" barrel on an AR.  Want a short-barreled AR? Don't wanna play with the NFA taxes on SBR's? Get an AR based pistol.

You're right. I have never figured that one out. Why bother? I suppose some douche might figure a way to get the brazed on suppressor off the barrel and be all macho and shit with his illegal SBR. But why? What does 11" do that 16" can't? Wait for it..... wait....      that's what she said!! [laugh] Couldn't pass that up. [laugh]
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

ducatiz

#723
December 18, 2010, 09:10:18 AM
Anyone can legally buy a 10-11-12 inch barreled upper with no required paperwork.  No brazing needed.

If you mount it onto an unregistered lower though, its a felony.
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fastwin

#724
December 18, 2010, 09:26:36 AM
Sure. But why does a manufacturer even offer a 10", 11", etc. barrelled AR if it just has to have a long un-removeable flash suppressor to make it a legal 16" rifle? What's the point? That would be like Remington making an 870 with a 14" barrel and sticking an un-removeable 4" extended choke tube on it so they could sell it to anyone. Me no understand. [bang]
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

ducatiz

#725
December 18, 2010, 09:35:32 AM
Quote from: oldfastwin on December 18, 2010, 09:26:36 AM
Sure. But why does a manufacturer even offer a 10", 11", etc. barrelled AR if it just has to have a long un-removeable flash suppressor to make it a legal 16" rifle? What's the point? That would be like Remington making an 870 with a 14" barrel and sticking an un-removeable 4" extended choke tube on it so they could sell it to anyone. Me no understand. [bang]

I can't explain that.   People buy whatever tickles their tickler. 

I have seen shotguns with a breaching type muzzle device that is essentially a barrel extension.  You can keep the legal 18" length and have a device on the end.  I dunno
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fastwin

#726
December 18, 2010, 10:21:49 AM
Me neither. Of course I don't know anyone who owns an 11" AR with the required brazed on muzzle break/flash hider so I have no one to ask why they got it. ??? I'd like to hear their answer if I ever have the chance to ask. Not that owning one makes you stupid or something but I'd like to know what spun their prop about it to go that route over a standard 16" or 20". Just wondering.
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

Monsterlover

#727
December 18, 2010, 10:24:28 AM
You guys know as well as I do that sometimes the price is just too good to let it go...

That's one explanation at least.
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fastwin

#728
December 18, 2010, 10:27:55 AM
As good as any other. [thumbsup]
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

Kopfjager

#729
December 18, 2010, 10:53:11 AM
Like tizz said, you can buy any barrel length you want. Iiiegal (?) who gives a shit, no one will know, or care for that matter.
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GAAN

#730
December 18, 2010, 10:59:44 AM
several people I know have them

the ranges of reasons include:


"the recent election sent the AR's up to 1500+, this one was 850"

"It's a home defense gun so no reason to engage anyone out at 300+yrds"

"this one had the standard sight post and handle"


in this area its more about whats available on the shelf

Punx Clever

#731
December 18, 2010, 11:05:32 AM
Quote from: Mother on December 18, 2010, 10:59:44 AM
"the recent election sent the AR's up to 1500+, this one was 850"

I can understand this reasoning, but then it's not looking for the 11" barrel.  It's looking for a deal.

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"It's a home defense gun so no reason to engage anyone out at 300+yrds"

Doesn't make sense... in terms of a LEGAL gun, it would still have the extra length, so any advantages that the 11" would have on size are lost, plus less accuracy, plus a more troublesome gas system.

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"this one had the standard sight post and handle"

Is it really that hard to find an A2 spec'd AR-15 where you are?
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Kopfjager

#732
December 18, 2010, 11:11:19 AM
The 11 inch barrel will easily reach out to 400yds. Much further if you train a lot.
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fastwin

#733
December 18, 2010, 11:20:06 AM
The lower cost makes sense I suppose.
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

GAAN

#734
December 18, 2010, 11:25:52 AM
Quote from: Punx Clever on December 18, 2010, 11:05:32 AM
Doesn't make sense... in terms of a LEGAL gun, it would still have the extra length, so any advantages that the 11" would have on size are lost, plus less accuracy, plus a more troublesome gas system.

the comment is in regards to the fact that the gun would be used for short range so the lack of 5 inches of rifling was no big loss

also

the gas system is of no issue as it wont be used to fire several thousands of rounds, maybe 200-300 a year


Quote from: Punx Clever on December 18, 2010, 11:05:32 AM
Is it really that hard to find an A2 spec'd AR-15 where you are?

yep, if you are looking to get a gun off the rack it is

most of them are flat tops

finding a carbine length A2 with a non-tele stock is a rare find

Quote from: kopfjäger on December 18, 2010, 11:11:19 AM
The 11 inch barrel will easily reach out to 400yds. Much further if you train a lot.

so will my .22 but hitting anything at that range without real training, constant practice, and a scope isn't going to happen for the average citizen
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