HELP!! Engine start problem!!

[dwu819]

The connections are tight..I just don't know what's going on..

I took a few more pictures..thought they might help..

[Howie]

What is the immoblizer light doing?  Does it blink?  Stay on solid? Go out?  What position is your kill switch in (we've all done that least once )?  Did you turn the ignition off. remove the key and try again?  They only give you about 15 seconds to hit the starter button.  Since the battery should be at least good enough to get a click out of the solenoid.  Pull the connector Dan was talking about.  One wire is positive, one is ground. I don't have a wiring diagram in front of me, so I don't knows which is which.  There is one in your owner's manual.  The positive should show voltage when you hit the starter button with the key on.  Let's get that far before disconnecting cables.

                                                                       

[dwu819]

What is the immoblizer light doing?  Does it blink?  Stay on solid? Go out?  What position is your kill switch in (we've all done that least once )?  Did you turn the ignition off. remove the key and try again?  They only give you about 15 seconds to hit the starter button.  Since the battery should be at least good enough to get a click out of the solenoid.  Pull the connector Dan was talking about.  One wire is positive, one is ground. I don't have a wiring diagram in front of me, so I don't knows which is which.  There is one in your owner's manual.  The positive should show voltage when you hit the starter button with the key on.  Let's get that far before disconnecting cables.                                                                  

The immoblizer light stay on solid. The kill switch is off. I did turn the ignition off and try again about 100 times..
When I hit the starter I don't even geet a click sound..
don't know what to do..

[Howie]

If your light is staying on solid, the immobilizer is not recognizing your key.  Try another key if you have one.  Also check the antenna connection under the bezel around the ignition cylinder.  If you have the immobilizer code, try this:

Procedure to override the immobilizer
using the throttle twistgrip
1) Turn the key to ON, fully open the throttle and hold it open.
The EOBD warning light (7, fig. 4.1) goes off after the pre-set
time of 8 seconds.
2) Release the throttle twistgrip as soon as the EOBD light
goes off.
3) The EOBD light flashes. Now enter the electronic release
code shown on the CODE CARD given to the customer
when the motorcycle was handed over by the dealer.
4) Count a number of flashes of the EOBD light equal to
the first number of the secret code.
Open the throttle twistgrip, hold fully open for 2 seconds,
then release it. The digit entered is acknowledged, and the
EOBD light comes on and stays on for the pre-set time of
4 seconds. Repeat the operation until you have entered
the final digit.
If no operation is performed with the throttle, the EOBD
light will flash 20 times and then come on steadily. In this
case, repeat the procedure from step (1).
5) When you release the throttle, if the code was entered
correctly, the EOBD light flashes to indicate that the engine
is unlocked. The EOBD light returns to its normal state (off)
after 4 seconds.
6) If the code has NOT been entered correctly, the EOBD
light remains lit and the procedure can be repeated as
many times as necessary by turning the key to OFF, then
re-starting from step (1).
Notes
If you release the twistgrip too soon, the warning
light comes on again. Return the ignition key to OFF and
repeat the procedure from step (1

[dwu819]

If your light is staying on solid, the immobilizer is not recognizing your key.  Try another key if you have one.  Also check the antenna connection under the bezel around the ignition cylinder.  If you have the immobilizer code, try this:

I tried the other key still didn't work.

Actually I should describe with more details.

After inserting the key and turn it to on. The immobilizer blinks twice and then stays on solid..

Any thought about this?

[Howie]

Immobilizer problem.  Do you have the code, or is there someone home who could get it to you? A loose connection at at the antenna is all I can think of as a quick possibility.  It is a plastic coated coil with a pig tail that connects it to the wiring harness.  Check that connection.

[dwu819]

Immobilizer problem.  Do you have the code, or is there someone home who could get it to you? A loose connection at at the antenna is all I can think of as a quick possibility.  It is a plastic coated coil with a pig tail that connects it to the wiring harness.  Check that connection.

No I don't have the code..I bought it from a member of this forum.

Actualy it's kinda hard to tell where and what the harness is by just reading the describtion..

Would you kindly give me a photo of where and how it looks like? Really appreciate all the help guys!!

[He Man]

the attenna is located on the black cap that surrounds the keyhole. Remove the 2 socket caps and you will find a wire hidden underneath it.

I find this a bit odd...  on a friends GT1000, the immobilizer light was lite up the whole time and would not start. I kept thinking it was an issue with the key since the bike started before he purchased it. I dont know what would case the bike to lock you out, but in the end, just as a trouble shoot to make sure the battery wasnt toasted, i swapped my monster battery onto his GT, and the light went away and started right up. However putting his GT battery on my monster yeilded a solid immobilzer light as well and the bike would not turn over.

If u have a charger, id charge the battery over night and check it out tomorrow morning. Maybe you left it on PARK for a while and didnt notice it and ended up killing your battery.

[dwu819]

the attenna is located on the black cap that surrounds the keyhole. Remove the 2 socket caps and you will find a wire hidden underneath it.

I find this a bit odd...  on a friends GT1000, the immobilizer light was lite up the whole time and would not start. I kept thinking it was an issue with the key since the bike started before he purchased it. I dont know what would case the bike to lock you out, but in the end, just as a trouble shoot to make sure the battery wasnt toasted, i swapped my monster battery onto his GT, and the light went away and started right up. However putting his GT battery on my monster yeilded a solid immobilzer light as well and the bike would not turn over.

If u have a charger, id charge the battery over night and check it out tomorrow morning. Maybe you left it on PARK for a while and didnt notice it and ended up killing your battery.

Thx for the tips. I'll try to borrow a battery charger and will post result.

[Howie]

A weak enough battery could cause this. Or you could jump it off another battery.  A car battery will work, just don't run the car.  If your battery reads 12.8 volts and is the cause charging won't help much.

[dwu819]

A weak enough battery could cause this. Or you could jump it off another battery.  A car battery will work, just don't run the car.  If your battery reads 12.8 volts and is the cause charging won't help much.

So do I have to take the battery out from a car and replace it to see if it works?

[dwu819]

Alright guys! I think I'm almost sure it's the immobilizer problem.

I just used the other key again and the light went off and start up right when I press the starter.

And I turned it off. Try again, light came up again and nothing happens when I press the starter.

I tried many times with both of my keys back and forth and it wouldn't start again.

So it should be the attenna problem?

[He Man]

which key did u use, both OEM black keys? or the red key? if there is no "bad" key, then the attenna might just be loose, or the wire is barely making a connection.

[dwu819]

I only have 2  black keys and I can't be sure if they are OEM since I bought the bike from a private seller.

I just checked the connection of the antenna and it seems not loosen at all.. I also disconnect and reconnect the harness that the wire of antenna connects to..

now I'm lost again..

[Howie]

Can you get hold of the original seller?  They may have the code written down somewhere.  You could try just replacing the antenna, but, obviously, that is a gamble.  Also, post up in your local board, someone there may be able to help out.