HELP!! Engine start problem!!

[DaFoose]

Definately not the battery. It would at least make a click when you pushed the button. I once had a similar problem, turned out the connector from my starter switch to the harness was loose. So I would follow the wires from the starter to where they plug into the bike, and unplug then replug them back in.

Of course my bike didn't have an immobalizer, which (to me) sounds like the real problem. try putting one key right next to the antenna, while using the other key to turn to on, then try starter switch. If that works, then almost surely its a bad antenna. Good luck

[dwu819]

Ok..I'm pretty sure the problem is the bike won't recognize my key.

I tried with both of my keys many and many times. Sometimes the bike got it and the immobilizer light went off and I can start the bike with no problem. Most of the chances the immobilizer light was just on forever(Also the EOBD light).

I tried to apply both keys at the same time. One in the keyhole, the other pointing at the antenna but I'm not sure if I did it right. This didn't work though.

I thought I should post up some photos about how I did it. Maybe I missed something..

[He Man]

Id replace the wire and see if that helps. If your okay with it, cut the wire toward the sensor end, test the rest of it for continuity, this will tell u if there is a break in the wire. If there isnt, maybe the antenna is broken. theres a guy on ebay

try this guy on ebay

http://myworld.ebay.com/pinwall_cycle_parts

hes got a large selection of monster parts for sale on the cheap.

[dwu819]

Id replace the wire and see if that helps. If your okay with it, cut the wire toward the sensor end, test the rest of it for continuity, this will tell u if there is a break in the wire. If there isnt, maybe the antenna is broken. theres a guy on ebay

try this guy on ebay

http://myworld.ebay.com/pinwall_cycle_parts

hes got a large selection of monster parts for sale on the cheap.

You mean cut the wire toward the sensor end and solder it back on?

[Howie]

No idea about a spec, but it is a coil so it should read between 0 and infinity ohms, probably close to 0.  If so the wire is good, though there could be an internal short in the winding, which would show up as a lower than normal resistance.  Of course, since we don't know what normal is at this point that is not much of a help, but that beats cutting wires on expensive and maybe difficult to find parts.  Someone with a factory scan tool can probably get to the problem quickly and may cost a lot less than random replacement of components.  Another option is send the computer out to get the immobilizer  defeated, not cheap, but it does eliminate a common problem.

[dwu819]

This is being so frustrating..On one hand if I bring it in it may cost too much for me..

On the other hand it looks like to be impossible to fix without the profession and special tools..?

Anyone in NY area willing to help..?

[He Man]

hows the wire itself look? is it being tugged on by anything? Perhaps one of the connectors are just loose, which could explain it randomly working sometimes with either key.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUCATI-749-999-MONSTER-KEY-IGNITION-ANTENNA-GUARD-TRIM-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5ad3ec5759QQitemZ390102538073QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

The pro to bringing it to a shop is to atleast know what exact is wrong.

where are u in NY exactly? ECS is a great shop if ur in the southern part of new york.

[dwu819]

Thx for the link! I'm located in Queens area.

[He Man]

ECS is about 75miles north. not sure if you would feel comfortable wiggling until you get your bike started and riding up there without stopping the engine.

Thats about the only indepedent shop that wont rape you in the butt (85/hr) cost wise and are really cool people to deal with and if you call ahead they could squeeze you in so your in and out.

Im in brooklyn, but i cant do much for you aside from trouble shooting the antenna cable by swapping yours with mine, atleast that way you know for sure if its the antenna or not but i dont know how your schedule works. Mine is getting pretty hectic right now.

Other then that, im all out of ideas. howie might have some more for you though.

[dwu819]

Sigh..now i wish it were just the battery problem so badly.........

[Pakhan]

I think you should try starting off another battery if you haven't already.  It is most likely not the issue, but it's cheap, easy and better to cross off the list before any other expense.  After that maybe ask a shop to diagnose and go from there.

[Howie]

Make use of He Man's offer, it's a quick swap and if that works, a new part and you are back on the road.

Don't go to ECS because they only charge $85 an hour.  Go there because they are incredibly good .

[dwu819]

ECS is about 75miles north. not sure if you would feel comfortable wiggling until you get your bike started and riding up there without stopping the engine.

Thats about the only indepedent shop that wont rape you in the butt (85/hr) cost wise and are really cool people to deal with and if you call ahead they could squeeze you in so your in and out.

Im in brooklyn, but i cant do much for you aside from trouble shooting the antenna cable by swapping yours with mine, atleast that way you know for sure if its the antenna or not but i dont know how your schedule works. Mine is getting pretty hectic right now.

Other then that, im all out of ideas. howie might have some more for you though.

He man thx for all the helps! Really should buy you a beer. And I will if I have a chance.

Anyways, I have to be away from thursday until next week and I'll swap the thing with my friend who rides a GT1000 and will report back to you guys how it goes..Let's just pray it's a easy and cheap fix..Otherwise I will have to starve for a few days..LOL

[erichan8757]

the attenna is located on the black cap that surrounds the keyhole. Remove the 2 socket caps and you will find a wire hidden underneath it.

I find this a bit odd...  on a friends GT1000, the immobilizer light was lite up the whole time and would not start. I kept thinking it was an issue with the key since the bike started before he purchased it. I dont know what would case the bike to lock you out, but in the end, just as a trouble shoot to make sure the battery wasnt toasted, i swapped my monster battery onto his GT, and the light went away and started right up. However putting his GT battery on my monster yeilded a solid immobilzer light as well and the bike would not turn over.

If u have a charger, id charge the battery over night and check it out tomorrow morning. Maybe you left it on PARK for a while and didnt notice it and ended up killing your battery.

That would be me , however tho, during the course of trouble shooting, the click sound exists through out all the tries.
It's just that the bike does not light up!  I dont know based on his scenario, if it's the same issue with the battery.
would it be the rectifier problem?

[dwu819]

LOL..man..I thought you should be in LA and have no access to computer.

Anyways..I'm kinda screwed at this point.....

My girlfriend is coming tomorrow night staying for 2 months and my bike is dead..

what a life..