iPhone 4

[Got Duc]

Anyone got one? I searched and got nothing. I am thinking of making a switch but am not convinced on the AT&Tcoverage.

So what do you think of your iPhone?

Thanks

Jim

[1KDS]

There was a thread about this a few weeks back, the phone's great but the coverage is dependent on where you live

[hihhs]

Love the Iphone but hate AT&T.
The coverage is fine but the network sucks. I get a lot of dropped calls. I think that is mostly due to being in San Francisco. AT&T practically admits their network is overwhelmed here.

[cyrus buelton]

Don't forget about the major design defect on the phone that if you hold it a certain way, it absolutely kills the connection to a cell tower.

Saw something about it on the Today show this morning. Apple kind of admits the issue, I think.


That would be my number one reason never to own or even try one. That'd annoy the shit out of me, but if you wear a bluetooth all the time, I guess that wouldn't be much of an issue.

[Plumbers Crack]

Don't forget about the major design defect on the phone that if you hold it a certain way, it absolutely kills the connection to a cell tower.

Saw something about it on the Today show this morning. Apple kind of admits the issue, I think.


That would be my number one reason never to own or even try one. That'd annoy the shit out of me, but if you wear a bluetooth all the time, I guess that wouldn't be much of an issue.

I have one and even at one bar the phone has a better signal then a full set on a 3gs..   Dont bash unless you actually have one..

I have tested it and have no problems at all.. just my 2 cent.   

With the new firmware coming up they will upgrade the code and will help out the frequency issues..

M

[Got Duc]

I saw that they were already addressing the issue of how you hold it.

It looks like a nice Phone and all and it does do a lot of cool things.

I guess it all boils down to ATT.

I need to see how it is here in NY I guess.

Thanks all.

J

[cyrus buelton]

I need to see how it is here in NY I guess.

I was in Manhattan in November with a Blackberry Bold 9000 on AT&T and the coverage was absolutely horrendous.

I know after that, they shut the network down for a day to do some upgrades, so they probably installed more towers or switches/whatever the phones connect through.

I have one and even at one bar the phone has a better signal then a full set on a 3gs..   Dont bash unless you actually have one..

I have tested it and have no problems at all.. just my 2 cent.   

With the new firmware coming up they will upgrade the code and will help out the frequency issues..

M

A friend has one and that problem is very obvious on it.

Guess he needs to learn to hold it better or it could be how good the service is in his area of town. He could only be on an EDGE network and not a full 3g. It happens a lot around here.

[The Bearded Duc]

Guess he needs to learn to hold it better or it could be how good the service is in his area of town. He could only be on an EDGE network and not a full 3g. It happens a lot around here.

If I'm gonna spend upwards of $400 on a cell phone I shouldn't have to "learn" how to hold it.

With the new firmware coming up they will upgrade the code and will help out the frequency issues..

M

The last article I read about the iPhone 4 said there isn't a "code" when it comes to the signal/frequency issue it just depends on how strong the actual signal coming from the antenna is. Apple actually came out and said that the sudden drop in cell signal was a mistake on their part and that the phone was reading a higher signal than it actually had and that's what the new firmware is supposed to fix.

AT&T just doesn't have the coverage that Verizon has. Unfortunately Verizon still opperates on CDMA and not GSM which is part of the overall problem with having an iPhone on Verizon.

Every article you read says the same thing, the iPhone is a great phone that is amazing at everything except making a phone call. Remember the iPhone has been out since 2007 and it's still behind on a number of features that other phones offer It's only a matter of time before another phone maker steps up.

[ROBsS4R]

This was a interesting article. It sure goes against what Verizon is telling everyone and or customers own experiences

http://www.pcworld.com/article/189592/atandt_roars_back_in_pcworlds_second_3g_wireless_performance_test.html



I myself do not have the bar issue on my Iphone 4. I believe it does exist to a certain extent. I have mixed feelings about the issue. I believe apple should give a free bumper away to everyone if its truly widespread issue but on the other hand every phone I ever buy I put a case on it anyways which eliminates the issue all together.

FYI my downloads speeds in Brentwood was 2.29mbps, San Jose was 1.41 mbps and Fremont was 3.01 mbps. I have heard SF is by far the worst service so I imagine it will still suck in the city.

One other note. this Iphone 4 has not dropped a call on me yet and I have been able to make calls in places that the 3GS would either not get a signal or constantly drop so I am not sure if its complete luck or this phone is actually better.

Oh and I am not a apple Fanboy. I do own Ipad I thoroughly enjoy but my PC Laptop is going to be with me for a long time to come =)

[The Bearded Duc]

This was a interesting article. It sure goes against what Verizon is telling everyone and or customers own experiences

http://www.pcworld.com/article/189592/atandt_roars_back_in_pcworlds_second_3g_wireless_performance_test.html



I myself do not have the bar issue on my Iphone 4. I believe it does exist to a certain extent. I have mixed feelings about the issue. I believe apple should give a free bumper away to everyone if its truly widespread issue but on the other hand every phone I ever buy I put a case on it anyways which eliminates the issue all together.

FYI my downloads speeds in Brentwood was 2.29mbps, San Jose was 1.41 mbps and Fremont was 3.01 mbps. I have heard SF is by far the worst service so I imagine it will still suck in the city.

One other note. this Iphone 4 has not dropped a call on me yet and I have been able to make calls in places that the 3GS would either not get a signal or constantly drop so I am not sure if its complete luck or this phone is actually better.

Oh and I am not a apple Fanboy. I do own Ipad I thoroughly enjoy but my PC Laptop is going to be with me for a long time to come =)

Even if the download speeds are greater than any other carrier the iPhone, as well as quite a number of other phones on AT&T, still lack one basic thing. Making a phone call.
Most people are complaining about the call quality, not the download speed. I want an iPhone but I don't want to have to buy a second phone just to make calls.

I'm from NYC and live in LA now and every single one of my friends that have iPhones say the call quality sucks, I could understand that if either of these two cities were in the middle of nowhere but they are two of the biggest cities in the world. You would think the call quality would be better.

[Got Duc]

Just talked to a buddy that has one (3g)

He said the phone itself is awesome.

I asked him about dropped calls and his response to me was do you drop calls with your nextel?

I do.

I guess it I will have to try one and see 

On another note the new Droid is coming out this month as well.

[Scooter Montgomery]

My iphone4 is coming today.

I hope I can make phone calls and of course cruise the DMF.

[cyrus buelton]

If I'm gonna spend upwards of $400 on a cell phone I shouldn't have to "learn" how to hold it.

That was pretty much my point


That article about download speeds on AT&T is funny.

I've been in a lot of major cities with an AT&T Phone and Air Card (Manhattan, Chicago, San Fran, Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, St Paul / Minneapolis) and I have never been impressed with my download speeds off an Air Card.

I wonder if the technology an Air Card uses is different then data on a phone?

I've never paid attention to speed on my phone as it is my work one and it retrieves my emails just fine

Equipment:

Blackberry Bold 9700
USB Velocity Air Card (newest "technology" according to my account rep)

but this isn't a thread about network coverage.

Back to the I-Phone..........

[duccarlos]

I'll stick to the 3GS for a while, like until it dies.

I don't think anyone complains about the 3G speed, they complain about the coverage. Verizon has a strangle hold mostly on the NE. That's where you will find the best Verizon coverage. AT&T's best coverage would be more in the south, i.e. Dallas, Atlanta, Florida, and in many places in the west coast like Seattle mostly because AT&T they use the same towers as SBC (PacBell). From what I understand, San Fran has horrid cell coverage across the board.

I'll give you one guess where Sprint's best coverage is. You guessed it, the Mid West. If all companies shared the same phones I would always suggest looking at where they are historically stronger and cheaper. Verizon is the most expensive down in Florida, but competetive up in the NE. But since they don't share technology, I still stay away from CDMA, mostly because I can't simply switch my SIM card if I have an issue with the phone.

As to dropped calls, I think I might have had 1 dropped call all of last year. Why you ask... mostly because Florida is so freaking flat that they can stick a cell tower just about anywhere and it covers a huge area. I will say that Sprint was the last cell company that I had issues with dropped calls, both Verizon and AT&T have had no issues.

So now we go to the phone. The iPhone 4 is pretty much a first gen version, so it will have many issues. I'm waiting for someone to specify exactly what feature the iPhone can't handle that another phone does. I'll give you this, the Blackberry is by far the industry leader when it comes with Outlook integration. If I was a business owner and provided phones, there is no question I would be handing out BB's. For personal use, iPhone or Droid phone. The Droid is slowly gaining apps and they're making strides with making it slick. This will be the battle to watch for years to come. BB unfortunately is dying because they've been too slow to react. If Droid can get BB's Outlook integration, it will definitely make this race very interesting.

[cyrus buelton]

If Droid can get BB's Outlook integration, it will definitely make this race very interesting.

Droid's can't handle Active Synch?