iPhone 4

[duccarlos]

For now. Apple will never truly integrate with Outlook and Windows Mobile is a joke. The only reason people still buy BB is phone Outlook. Once another phone does that better, BB is done. A smart iPhone competitor whole try to find a way to make a deal with Microsoft.

[cyrus buelton]

For now. Apple will never truly integrate with Outlook and Windows Mobile is a joke. The only reason people still buy BB is phone Outlook. Once another phone does that better, BB is done. A smart iPhone competitor whole try to find a way to make a deal with Microsoft.

The problem with RIM is that if your company has Blackberry's...........you need RIM servers or contract your email through a third party with those servers

or

did something change on their email delivery?

Don't forget too you have to pay for CAL's

[duccarlos]

You have to develop a better system than RIM, but a company that's willing to dump money into it, will probably grab the market share that RIM has cornered.

[cyrus buelton]

You have to develop a better system than RIM, but a company that's willing to dump money into it, will probably grab the market share that RIM has cornered.

I love my Blackberry's!

[derby]

For now. Apple will never truly integrate with Outlook and Windows Mobile is a joke. The only reason people still buy BB is phone Outlook. Once another phone does that better, BB is done. A smart iPhone competitor whole try to find a way to make a deal with Microsoft.

i'm not sure what you mean here...

iphones use (microsoft's) activesync to communicate directly with exchange (outlook).

[Autostrada Pilot]

I just got an iPhone 3GS 2 months ago for work.  I previously had Verizon.....there are a lot of rural areas near me and I've always had coverage when my friends with other carriers did not.  AT&T coverage in these rural areas is poor, but when I have 3G coverage, I love my phone.

Played with my friend's iPhone 4 a few nights ago at dinner-faster/more responsive than my 3gs, but didn't really get to check out reading with the new screen.  Pretty sure I won't be getting one for a couple of years-and it'll probably be a Verizon one (it will be that long before I get a new one).

[duccarlos]

i'm not sure what you mean here...

iphones use (microsoft's) activesync to communicate directly with exchange (outlook).

Not to the level that RIM is integrated and there are security concerns. Why do you think AT&T does not allow their employees to sync their iPhones with their work email.

I love my Blackberry's!

I loved my BB at first and then hated the way that I became a slave to it.

I would love to see the iPhone on a 4G network. I will never again go with Verizon simply because if I sneezed, they would extend my contract for another 2 years and their customer service was worst that AT&T which is shocking considering how horrid AT&T's service is.

[cyrus buelton]

I loved my BB at first and then hated the way that I became a slave to it.

I hear you on that.

I have become a major slave to mine, especially on vacation.

It started to bother my wife and I was sick of answering it.

so when we go to Costa Rica in 10 days, I am going to barely touch the make the beast with two backser.

[duccarlos]

I used to sleep with it on my chest. More than once the wife grabbed it to toss out the window.

[cyrus buelton]

I used to sleep with it on my chest. More than once the wife grabbed it to toss out the window.

Mine is on my nightstand.

I admit, I have checked it in the middle of the night and replied to emails.

remember, I work for a british company, so by 2-3am is when my first lot of emails start pouring in.

[derby]

Not to the level that RIM is integrated and there are security concerns. Why do you think AT&T does not allow their employees to sync their iPhones with their work email.

i'm not sure what you do for a living, but this is actually part of my job.

blackberry sync: blackberry enterprise server polls exchange mailbox servers and then sends emails outside the local network to rim's servers and then to your wireless provider and on to your handheld device.

microsoft activesync: handheld device communicates directly with exchange server.

i've mentioned this before, but the microsoft solution should be inherently more secure. the possible (not iphone-specific) weak point is on-device security or the security of any offline device backups.

(i should add that we're 99% blackberry/bes)

[cyrus buelton]

Carlos works for AT&T Mobility...............

[derby]

Carlos works for AT&T Mobility...............

...and i work for univision. it doesn't make me a subject matter expert on spanish-language entertainment. 

[cyrus buelton]

...and i work for univision. it doesn't make me a subject matter expert on spanish-language entertainment. 

I was just stating that he works on the IT side of the mobility portion on system upgrades or something.



It's interesting what you have to say verse what AT&T has to say about the security.



Can you remote wipe with active synch?

I know when I was managing PDA's (Samsung SCH-i760's, Treo's, etc) we used active synch and outside the password time out, there was no ability to remote wipe.

Technology might have changed in the past 18 months, I really don't know.


It is very handy with remote wipe as if an employee gets a phone stolen or terminated, I can have their phone erased in 8 seconds.

[derby]

iirc, you've been able to issue a remote wipe on an activesync client since exchange 2003 sp2.

edit: http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2005/07/07/407416.aspx