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bikepilot

I'm not sure that the idea of removing the front fender to fit a wide tire to improve rain riding charcteristics was terriably well considered  :o  Looks like a tidy sporty though.
2009 XB12XT
2006 Monster 620 (wife's)
1997 TL1000S
1975 Kawasaki H1 Mach III
2001 CR250R (CO do-it-all bike)
2000 XR650R (dez racer)
2003 KX100 (wife's)
1994 DR250SE (wife's/my city commuter)

Artful

Quote from: bikepilot on September 14, 2011, 05:12:06 AM
I'm not sure that the idea of removing the front fender to fit a wide tire to improve rain riding charcteristics was terriably well considered

RIGHT?!?!?!!?!
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Slide Panda

Quote from: DRKWNG on September 13, 2011, 06:36:10 PM
Is she selling it to replace with another bike, or to replace with $?

Not sure what the disposition of the plan is currently. She makes eyes at the GT1000 sport classics.

Quote from: bikepilot on September 14, 2011, 05:12:06 AM
I'm not sure that the idea of removing the front fender to fit a wide tire to improve rain riding charcteristics was terriably well considered  :o  Looks like a tidy sporty though.

The tire was bought at the recommendation of someone else. It's the narrowest front they have, but still too wide to fit the fender w/o rubbing.. so off it came.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
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ducatiz

Quote from: bikepilot on September 14, 2011, 05:12:06 AM
I'm not sure that the idea of removing the front fender to fit a wide tire to improve rain riding charcteristics was terriably well considered  :o  Looks like a tidy sporty though.

I don't see how a wider tire would help in rain

Wider tire = less weight per cm^2.  You spread the weight around and the tire is more likely to float above the water (i.e. hydroplaning) and that's really bad.

You want MORE weight per cm^2, which you can do by either being fatter or by having a thinner tire, not wider.



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Slide Panda

I think the language used was a bit ambiguous or confusing. The size doesn't matter - but the tires do. The bike had the HD stockers on before the Avons and had only a little more traction on wet than it did ice. the HD tires are awful.

Those Avons do much better in the wet and have a more sporty profile.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

ducatiz

Quote from: Sad Panda on September 14, 2011, 08:12:09 AM
I think the language used was a bit ambiguous or confusing. The size doesn't matter - but the tires do. The bike had the HD stockers on before the Avons and had only a little more traction on wet than it did ice. the HD tires are awful.

Those Avons do much better in the wet and have a more sporty profile.

i hear all that.  avons in general have a good wet rep, but if you put a wider tire on, then you are reducing the per sq cm weight, which will negate any tread advantages in wet.
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Artful

One day I want to be referred to as having a "good wet rep".

Good wider tires are better than crap narrower tires.
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Slide Panda

I wasn't part of the tire process at all... Don't blame the messenger.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

ducatiz

Quote from: Artful on September 14, 2011, 08:25:26 AM
One day I want to be referred to as having a "good wet rep".

Good wider tires are better than crap narrower tires.

Too general of a statement to even comment on.

I had a friend who kept complaining about his new bike's tires.  They're so squirrely and slippery.  of course, the tires weren't broken in at all and still had the showroom gloss on them. 

I understand people ride by feel a lot, but I seriously doubt the tires got a fair test.  It's entirely possible that riding with the wider tire in wet was better because the rider slowed down due to the spray in the face with the mudguard missing.
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Artful

Quote from: Sad Panda on September 14, 2011, 08:34:23 AM
I wasn't part of the tire process at all... Don't blame the messenger.

We still blame you.
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Slide Panda

-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

ducatiz

Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

bikepilot

Just giving ya a hard time.  I'm sure the avon sticks a lot better than the oem tire, wider or not.  All else equal wider usually isn't better, but it certainly can be (e.g., a 3.5" x17 racing wet will stick a heck of a lot better than any road tire in the wet, regardless of width).  The other issue is taking the fender off to improve rain performance, have you ever tried to ride in the rain without a fender?  Water sprays straight up and onto your face in my experience with bicycles, I think it'd be just as much an issue on a moto.
2009 XB12XT
2006 Monster 620 (wife's)
1997 TL1000S
1975 Kawasaki H1 Mach III
2001 CR250R (CO do-it-all bike)
2000 XR650R (dez racer)
2003 KX100 (wife's)
1994 DR250SE (wife's/my city commuter)

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98 Monster 900(trackpregnant dog-soon to be made my Fiancee's upgrade streetbike)
2010 KTM 990 SM-T

DRKWNG

Quote from: Sad Panda on September 14, 2011, 07:39:53 AM
She makes eyes at the GT1000 sport classics.

Make sure and tell her that the Sport1000 is the better one to have.  I know where one is too.   :D
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