Sprockets

[melvin]

Went today (again) up to the Warriors and past to the sound-off section .... nice  Sunny, perfectly dry; confidence building conditions
The only annoying thing was that i spend half my time shifting up and down before and after every turn..........3rd was too low, 4th was too high

I have 14/43 combo on my S2R800 for 5 years now. Its ok in the city but on a windy roads can be a pain Today i also noticed that i'm missing a tooth in a rear sprocket so its time to replace it ... and the front one ... and the chain


So i'm asking you if you were to replace your current front/rear sprocket combination would you remain with the same ratio you have (what is it?) or change it - to what?
I'm tempted to do either 14/41 or return to std 15/41


ps
i found AFAM front sprocket @ slipstreamperformance.com.au but they don't have a rear one despite having several pages of Ducati-dedicated sprockets Which other Ducati shares the rear sprocket with '05 S2R800?

Or ... can you suggest any shops in Sydney or on-line shops in Oz which might stock AFAM sprockets to fit my needs?



Thank you for any info you might share with me
Melvin

[ozducati]

Melvin, we stock TSS Rear Sprockets & Quick Change Carriers, just got a shipment in...have most sprocket sizes here, will give you a forum members discount..

[mattyvas]

It would have been a lovely day to be out riding!

I am going to change my rear in the future. I have stock gearing for mine which is 15/43
Thinking I'll go down one tooth at the rear to 42 as I have been told it might result in a better fuel range for my thirsty
Testastretta engine.

I too have a quick change sprocket carrier but I have to find out what will fit it, I'm not sure if it's AFAM or what.
 

[melvin]

Thanks ... that's a start
I don't think i care for a quick change carrier; front and rear sprocket will do me just fine. I will wait for the suggestions as to the ratio and than will get in touch with you
BTW - do you stock DID chains? I'm after 520ERV3

[heatherp]

I found that changing from 14/38 back to 15/42 meant less gear changing for me and more use out of top gear.  Didn't make any difference around town - it hates traffic regardless.

[monstermick58]

Standard gearing is way to high, and in the city you will be after a new clutch very quickly, I dont understand how you are either too high or too low when you enter a corner, that usually is race track talk. On corners try going in a bit quicker or slower, quicker sounds good though doesnt it.

 14/41 would be about perfect for highway use, and yes replace both sprockets and chain at the same time, it actually works out cheaper in the long run




                        Mmick

[stopintime]

The "3rd too high / 4th too low" issues won't be better by a sprockets change (you already have a short combo).

You might find that a 15/41 will be suitable for one specific road, but then it will be a nightmare on another...
14/43 good for city riding, but too short for fast highways.... a.s.o. a.s.o.

ERV3 is a wonderful chain - soo much smoother

I found that changing from 14/38 back to 15/42 meant less gear changing for me and more use out of top gear.  Didn't make any difference around town - it hates traffic regardless.

It's strange how little it takes. Your new combo changes the revs only by about 2%. (at 5,000 it means 100 revs)

[melvin]

I dont understand how you are either too high or too low when you enter a corner, that usually is race track talk.
                    

C'mon, Mick ... you know that i'm all about racing hence the talk 
What i mean is that when i was going through corners at my pedestrian speeds 3rd gear seemed too high for that speed and 4th seemed too low Yes, i know faster in 4th would be better ... for you, tarmac-eating rider but not for me

[MonsterDorf]

OK did a lot of work with gear commander to ascertain the best compromise considering all aspects including chain & sprocket wear. Then  trialed a couple of configurations on my favorite roads (Glorious, Mt Mee etc) and decided on 15/43 using a quick change carrier (which looks cool & protects your single swing arm).

I did a lot of shopping around but found the sprocket center was the best value for money even with freight. I did get a new set for my SV650 at the same time so saved heaps compared to Oz (we decided on 15-47 on it). That put the SV on par with my Duc as far as acceleration goes.

I guess this will make life even more difficult for Loony as he'll get smoked by not only me but my son too. Perhaps I should see if I could do the same on my project bike?

Here's a pick of my project bike

[MonsterDorf]

OK and this is what the quick change looks like

[loony888]

OK did a lot of work with gear commander to ascertain the best compromise considering all aspects including chain & sprocket wear. Then  trialed a couple of configurations on my favorite roads (Glorious, Mt Mee etc) and decided on 15/43 using a quick change carrier (which looks cool & protects your single swing arm).

I did a lot of shopping around but found the sprocket center was the best value for money even with freight. I did get a new set for my SV650 at the same time so saved heaps compared to Oz (we decided on 15-47 on it). That put the SV on par with my Duc as far as acceleration goes.

I guess this will make life even more difficult for Loony as he'll get smoked by not only me but my son too. Perhaps I should see if I could do the same on my project bike?

Here's a pick of my project bike

uhhuh, ever hear the phrase "self praise is no reccomendation"?
I'm happy to get passed on the street, doesn't mean you're that much faster, just means you're prepared to take more chances than me. there's no finish line you know, and as long as i get home intact i'm a happy camper. maybe you should instill that kind of thinking on your son cause encouraging him to push it on the road will only end in disaster.

paul.

[MonsterDorf]

Thread Jack

Damn you for giving a sensible response - so unusual. You having a snag (sensitive new age guy) kind of a day? But I have to agree, we should all be encouraging sensible responsible riding. That therefore leads me to suggest that maybe we should organise a blat at Morgan Park. I have a friend with a Cagiva Elefant and one with a ST3 who may also be keen.

Have you seen the post on Brisbane Riders about inline 4 vs V configuration?

Back on Topic

Seriously have a play with http://www.gearingcommander.com/ hours of fun.

Also

http://www.sprocketcenter.com/c/17510/1/800-s2r-monsterdark-05-08.html

[mattyvas]

15/43 hey.
Did the 800 run different stock gearing cause that's what i'm on now.
If ind it pretty good for all round stuff but I am trying to see if gearing can help extend my fuel range.

[melvin]

I did a lot of shopping around but found the sprocket center was the best value for money even with freight.

i'm not all that worried about shipping as i will be in US next month. the sprockets prices there and here are not all that different but the DID chain is nearly twice as expensive here
the more i think about my predicament the more options i see. i do need a new rear sprocket now as the one i have is missing a tooth and i'm going to eastern creek in 2 weeks. so what i can do is put an oem rear sprocket for the day, buy sprockets/chain in the US and bring it here. case closed

MonsterDorf ... is the quick change carrier an indulgence rather than a necessity when i don't intend to change a rear sprocket for city/track/highway?

[melvin]

15/43 hey.
Did the 800 run different stock gearing cause that's what i'm on now.

15/41 is our stock gearing, Matty