Office Politics... How do you deal with it?

[cyrus buelton]

+1 on what Statler said.


BCCing is pretty common, I would say I do it at least 5-10 times daily on emails.


It is all about documenting and covering your ass.

[Triple J]

The bcc thing would piss me off.  Not because they copied the person, I treat my emails as if they were going to everyone, but because it is sneaky.  If you want to copy someone, just copy them.  bcc is lame, especially in the example you gave.

Personally I'd start looking for a new job, while documenting everything at the current job like Statler said.  It may get better at the current place, in which case you just have an updated resume.  If it doesn't, then you already know what's going on in the local job market.

I'd ignore the admin. asst. issue...unless it directly affects you.

Reminds me why I like to work for small companies. 

[TCK!]

If you want to copy someone, just copy them.  bcc is lame, especially in the example you gave.

That's what I'm saying... what pisses me off is that when I respond the BCC recipients don't get a copy... So since I didn't drop the ball my boss didn't forward to the BCC's that I didn't fail. So then a few days later the BCC's msg asking why I'm being un-responsive and do they need to get involved in rectifying the situation.

[T-byrd]

That's what I'm saying... what pisses me off is that when I respond the BCC recipients don't get a copy... So since I didn't drop the ball my boss didn't forward to the BCC's that I didn't fail. So then a few days later the BCC's msg asking why I'm being un-responsive and do they need to get involved in rectifying the situation.

You have copies of the emails you sent though, right?  I would print them off and give them to whomever is giving you a hard time.  Screw your boss...what d-bag.

T

[Vindingo]

If the Pres replied to you, why dont you start CCing him on all of the emails to your boss?  I guess your boss might get pissed, but now he knows that you know about his BCCing game. 

If you're not happy there start looking for a new job, you drive to far to work anyway!!   

I had a problem with the admin girl at my old place and it just seems best not to get involved with that shit.  If she doesnt like you, it will turn into a huge annoyance and it can make you miserable.  Before I quit at my old place I got "Oh I forgot to submit your invoice"  and "I didnt get your last time sheet, you will have to wait until the next billing cycle..."

[Statler]

Well if the Pres asked, print off the entire email exchange with your boss and give them to him.

[the_Journeyman]

Office Politics?  I keep a low profile.  Most refer to me as the quiet one they worry about.  I know and speak to every person I cross paths with, but I'm not overly social with one particular group.  Works for my workplace ~

JM

[TCK!]

Well if the Pres asked, print off the entire email exchange with your boss and give them to him.

I just replied to all again and gave the same response, but a bit more detailed, that I did before. Nothing has came of it since then. I don't really like making stuff into anymore of an issue then it is, I just let my proficiency in my work talk for me.

I guess I'll find out in like two weeks when they do my yearly review, and if I'll get a raise or not

[cyrus buelton]

Who cares if it is sneaky?

If you are doing your job correctly, then it shouldn't matter who is CCed, BCCed, etc.


Often times the ones that complain about such a thing being done are the ones not doing their work.

[TCK!]

*EDIT*
NVM it's not worth talking about.

[Triple J]

Who cares if it is sneaky?

If you are doing your job correctly, then it shouldn't matter who is CCed, BCCed, etc.


Often times the ones that complain about such a thing being done are the ones not doing their work.

Because you may reply to the original sender answering their question, but not reply to the bcc recipient because you didn't know they were copied.  As a result, the bcc recipient never hears your side of the story.  If you have a boss (or anyone) trying to cover their ass on an issue by unfairly blaming you, this can become a problem.  Sure it can probably be cleared up, but it shouldn't have been an issue in the first place.

If the person sending the email is doing their job correctly then they shouldn't care if the email recipient sees who has been copied in the first place.

Like I said, it is a sneaky tactic IMO.  Would you be pissed if someone called you and secretly had your boss/client/whomever on the phone as well?  It's basically the same thing.

...and BTW, I routinely rate very high at my job, so it isn't just slackers who hate this type of thing.

[Sinister]

*EDIT*
NVM it's not worth talking about.

Yeah, you should get back to work and quit jabbering on here.

[cyrus buelton]

Because you may reply to the original sender answering their question, but not reply to the bcc recipient because you didn't know they were copied.  As a result, the bcc recipient never hears your side of the story.  If you have a boss (or anyone) trying to cover their ass on an issue by unfairly blaming you, this can become a problem.  Sure it can probably be cleared up, but it shouldn't have been an issue in the first place.

If the person sending the email is doing their job correctly then they shouldn't care if the email recipient sees who has been copied in the first place.

Like I said, it is a sneaky tactic IMO.  Would you be pissed if someone called you and secretly had your boss/client/whomever on the phone as well?  It's basically the same thing.

...and BTW, I routinely rate very high at my job, so it isn't just slackers who hate this type of thing.

How do we know specifics about being "unfairly blamed?"

I guess it is matter of opinion.

I use BCCing quiet frequently with a lot of my correspondence on issues where people are make the beast with two backsing up.

[teddy037.2]

how do I deal w/it? booze. lots and lots of booze 

I tried staying out of it and just do my job, but  just being around these make the beast with two backstards has eaten away at my soul.

therefore, I am looking for a new job.  I'd love to finally have my firey "I QUIT!!!" rampage 

[cyrus buelton]

^^^

New job won't change it.


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