Best high flow filter for 696/796/1100

[Veloce-Fino]

EDIT -  Updated first post with all the known manufacturers of filters for 696/796/1100 with the exception of the DP filter which I could not find for sale individually.

K&N - DU-6908 - ~$62


MWR - MC-020-08  - ~$140


Pipercross - MPX151 - $60


BMC - 452/08 - $85 - only found on one site.


K&N and BMC appear to be more of the standard design filter. While MWR and PX appear to be some type of soft foam. The MWR is the most radical change from the stock filter and is also the most expensive.

[Raux]

now you have to add MWR to that list

http://www.racingairfilters.eu/?ids=kop3/sub3

[Raux]

and pipercross. i think the HM filter fits the 696. but you have to cross reference.

[Veloce-Fino]

These are both listed on motowheels

MWR $137

PX $55

[Raux]

http://www.mota-lab.com/

a desmoworks company

[asherrick]

In the process of getting my 696's ECU reflashed to DP racing Spec and need to find a good high flow filter.

Who's doing your re-flash?  How much?  I'm definitely excited about the possibility of this...

[Veloce-Fino]

Who's doing your re-flash?  How much?  I'm definitely excited about the possibility of this...

Thanks to Raux and however he gets all his information I found out that Anthony over at Desmoworks is in the process of getting the software for reflashes. He will be the first in the US to have it. Hopefully within the next week or 2.

excerpt from an e-mail:

"We can disable the O2 sensors as well... you'll be able to map the entire REV and Throttle Position range with the PCV!"

This is exciting for sure. Being able to re-flash you ecu disable the O2 sensors and get a complete custom tune via the PCV. I am excited for all this.

NEED MO MONEY

[Link]

Thanks to Raux and however he gets all his information I found out that Anthony over at Desmoworks is in the process of getting the software for reflashes. He will be the first in the US to have it. Hopefully within the next week or 2.

excerpt from an e-mail:

"We can disable the O2 sensors as well... you'll be able to map the entire REV and Throttle Position range with the PCV!"

This is exciting for sure. Being able to re-flash you ecu disable the O2 sensors and get a complete custom tune via the PCV. I am excited for all this.

NEED MO MONEY

I'm also gonna get the re-flash but do you think a PCV is gonna change the mapping enough to justify the added cost ? I was thinking the re flash would do the trick. I know on my larger displacement bikes dyno tuning made all the diff. in the world but with this small air cooled motor I'd like to see a dyno chart of a PCV/re-flashed ecu compared to just a re flashed ecu.

[Veloce-Fino]

I'm also gonna get the re-flash but do you think a PCV is gonna change the mapping enough to justify the added cost ? I was thinking the re flash would do the trick. I know on my larger displacement bikes dyno tuning made all the diff. in the world but with this small air cooled motor I'd like to see a dyno chart of a PCV/re-flashed ecu compared to just a re flashed ecu.

Probably not, but! adding the waspworks kit with pod filters and velocity stacks would, I think, almost necessitate a dyno tune due to the major change in the intake system.

If I were to just get a high flow filter and a reflash with my exhaust a PCV tune would be unnecessary.

Question? If I get the DP Race re-flash and have the o2 sensors disabled will the bike run? Or does the disabling of the o2 require a PCV and dyno tuning. I want to get the flash and disable the o2 but the waspworks kit with the PCV is still weeks away for me and I want to be able to ride. Might even end up waiting until next season depending on the final release date.

[Raux]

Veloce you have a 09 696 right?

if so, i can lend you my stock ECU to use while they play with the remap on your ecu.

[Veloce-Fino]

Veloce you have a 09 696 right?

if so, i can lend you my stock ECU to use while they play with the remap on your ecu.

You are a true gentlemen. However I believe Anthony said once he receives the ECU it's 24hrs and back out the door. Assuming I overnight the ecu to him and he ships it back standard were talking 4-5 days maximum. I should be able to survive a work week without my bike.

Let me talk to Anthony again first, I may take you up on this yet. Though waiting for customs and shipping to the US and back to Germany may be ridiculous. 

Might as well hand deliver and make a vacation out of it.   

[Raux]

You are a true gentlemen. However I believe Anthony said once he receives the ECU it's 24hrs and back out the door. Assuming I overnight the ecu to him and he ships it back standard were talking 4-5 days maximum. I should be able to survive a work week without my bike.

Let me talk to Anthony again first, I may take you up on this yet. Though waiting for customs and shipping to the US and back to Germany may be ridiculous. 

Might as well hand deliver and make a vacation out of it.   

no prob. let me know.

[ChrisH]

I didnt know it was possible to reflash the 696 ECU yet? What is Desmoworks charging if you don't mind sharing? I'm very interested in this as it would allow me to get the pipes that I want instead of buying Termi's!

[DucNaked]

He told me 300 bucks

[Veloce-Fino]

He told me 300 bucks

Same price he told me.

The tough decision used to be how to best get the DP ECU... now it's to re-flash with or without the 02 sensors...

Now I just need to find out if disabling the 02 sensors requires tuning ot if I can just disable plug in the ecu and go.

MAN we're off topic.