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« on: August 14, 2010, 01:43:50 PM »

The Grand Prix Commission, in a meeting held on August 14 in Brno (Czech Republic), unanimously decided on a number of issues, ... "from 2012 the 125cc class will be replaced by Moto3, this has been approved in principle by all the members. The MSMA gave a majority approval and the rest of the members – the FIM, IRTA, and Dorna – have all approved. The basic concept is a 250cc, 4-stroke, one-cylinder engine with a maximum bore of 81mm. The aim is to make this category more competitive and cheaper. Our idea now is to make it a multi-engine category and not a single-engine class. Many things are still to be discussed but it is to be implemented for the 2012 season."

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2010, 01:54:49 PM »

It wasn't broke...
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2010, 01:56:29 PM »

I knew it was coming but I HATE reading about it. Angry I am going to miss 125GP as much as 250GP. Sad.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2010, 01:59:43 PM »

It's the same as hippy hating. Grin
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2010, 02:05:34 PM »

It wasn't broke...
I knew it was coming but I HATE reading about it. Angry I am going to miss 125GP as much as 250GP. Sad.

Yes, it wasn't broke and I will also miss the very distinctive sound from 2 strokes, at least I can purchase a Suzuki AX100 2 Stroke for less than $1K...
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2010, 09:15:35 PM »

Good riddance.

Where were you guys when they stopped making two strokes for the US market?

Also, I am bitter. And if I can't have a two stroke, nobody can  Evil
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2010, 05:35:47 AM »

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/Grand+Prix+Commission+announce+rule+amendments+in+Brno

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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2010, 10:16:56 AM »

what I love is that the engines are to be less than 10K euro's and yet have to last 3 races....

so...do they want these guys to ride a rolling grenade or what?...
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2010, 10:20:55 AM »

what I love is that the engines are to be less than 10K euro's and yet have to last 3 races....

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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2010, 10:27:29 AM »

what I love is that the engines are to be less than 10K euro's and yet have to last 3 races....

so...do they want these guys to ride a rolling grenade or what?...

no, they don't.. hence "have to last 3 races".
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2010, 10:33:56 AM »

It was only a matter of time -- so many countries have banned 2 strokes for road that the market is just not there.  I don't think anything over 50cc is legal in the US anywhere, and California even that is gone.

Enjoy them while you can...

There is a Mito 125 for sale on CL in S Carolina if anyone wants.. Looks very fun....
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2010, 10:36:42 AM »

There is a Mito 125 for sale on CL in S Carolina if anyone wants.. Looks very fun....

Scuderia West in San Francisco has had one for sale forever. Cool looking bike.
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2010, 11:06:07 AM »

Scuderia West in San Francisco has had one for sale forever. Cool looking bike.

Street legal?  how much??
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2010, 11:12:35 AM »

Street legal?  how much??

Dunno and Dunno. I may pop in there in the next few days though, and I'll ask.
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2010, 11:10:23 PM »

Moto2 gave me the motivation to get my own 2 stroke.  A 1975 550 Suzuki needing some TLC.  I just got the crank back today from Bill Bune up in MN.  Freshly rebuilt, this 2 stroke will be on the road for years.   Thanks Moto2!
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