M1100 - clutch advice

[bigjilm]

I will start with the backstory, just to get the stupid out in the open.  I got a new vented clutch plate for my 1100, bolted it on and started it up.  CRUNCH!  That would be the sound of me breaking two adjacent pegs off of my clutch hub.  Ah - so that's why the instructions say I should use the stock gasket!

So I order a Vee Two clutch hub, and that would be sufficient to get me back on the road.  But, since my mech says my clutch is already half worn, and I'm pretty sure I can put something a lot better looking while reducing the rotating mass on my bike, let's reassemble this thing right, right?

Given my choice of hub, can anyone suggest a proven combination of parts that would give me a beautiful, light, and properly functioning clutch?  Alternatively, if this has been discussed before, a link would be awesome.

Bigjilm

[Amlethae]

I'm not terribly sure I'm clear on what you're asking.  Could you post pictures?

What's your budget for upgrading?  I freaking love my EVR Slipper:

[koko64]

I will start with the backstory, just to get the stupid out in the open.  I got a new vented clutch plate for my 1100, bolted it on and started it up.  CRUNCH!  That would be the sound of me breaking two adjacent pegs off of my clutch hub.  Ah - so that's why the instructions say I should use the stock gasket!

So I order a Vee Two clutch hub, and that would be sufficient to get me back on the road.  But, since my mech says my clutch is already half worn, and I'm pretty sure I can put something a lot better looking while reducing the rotating mass on my bike, let's reassemble this thing right, right?

Given my choice of hub, can anyone suggest a proven combination of parts that would give me a beautiful, light, and properly functioning clutch?  Alternatively, if this has been discussed before, a link would be awesome.

Bigjilm

Sorry to hear about that. Must have only caught the cover by a few millimeters.
It will depend on whether you want to console yourself with lots of blingy clutch gear or get out of it as cheaply and effectively as you can.

What part of the clutch is half worn? The plates or basket? Out of interest, how many miles on the bike?
Nichols and Barnett make light alloy baskets that would be compatible with the Vee Two hub and Barnett or Stock plates. The newer stock alloy basket and alloy friction plates are pretty light compared to the old steel basket and steel friction plates.

I'm running a Vee Two hub, Vee Two basket and Barnett plates on my 900.

The sponsors here would have other brands that would be compatible. Worth calling them. There seems to be alot of stuff available that's pretty trick. MPL, STM, Yoyodyne, EVR, Ducati Performance just to name a few leaves you spoilt for choice.
It's just a matter of budget.
For my money, I'd add a set of Barnett or stock plates, and if the basket was worn out throw in a Nichols basket. If you can find cheap left over Vee Two stock, then a Vee Two basket. Some of the other baskets come in anodised colors and there are colored spring retainers and stainless springs available.

Just enter clutch in the search section and I bet there is a huge amount of information and opinion. People are really passionate about the style of their open dry clutches.

Be great to see the finished job.

[bigjilm]

What's your budget for upgrading?  I freaking love my EVR Slipper:

I should've been more clear - not interested in the slipper clutch idea, just trying to put together an excellent standard clutch.  That does look pretty sweet, though!

Sorry to hear about that. Must have only caught the cover by a few millimeters.
It will depend on whether you want to console yourself with lots of blingy clutch gear or get out of it as cheaply and effectively as you can.

What part of the clutch is half worn? The plates or basket? Out of interest, how many miles on the bike?
Nichols and Barnett make light alloy baskets that would be compatible with the Vee Two hub and Barnett or Stock plates. The newer stock alloy basket and alloy friction plates are pretty light compared to the old steel basket and steel friction plates.

I'm running a Vee Two hub, Vee Two basket and Barnett plates on my 900.

Blingy will be fun, but I'm most interested in a reliable clutch and perhaps reduced weight.  My mech said I'd need new plates, and didn't mention basket.  I have about 12000kms on it right now.

From what I've read, choosing an alloy basket influences the choice of plates, but I wasn't unsure as to whatever that impacts.  For example, if I used the stock basket and Vee Two hub, should I choose steel plates?  Should I replace my basket with alloy to match the hub, and then get compatible plates for alloy basket and hub?

Once I've chosen a basket and plates, I then should probably get some nice caps, a pressure plate, and springs - alot of variables in there, and this is why I was hoping someone would just fire me a nice list of parts and I'll plug them in!

Nichols and Barnett make light alloy baskets that would be compatible with the Vee Two hub and Barnett or Stock plates. ...
I'm running a Vee Two hub, Vee Two basket and Barnett plates on my 900.

We're part way there - Barnett or stock plates, Nichols or Barnett basket.  Will any stainless steel springs do?  Are the caps and pressure plate important to the equation?  What are you running on your 900?

[Speeddog]

Aluminum basket - Aluminum plates *only*

Steel basket - Steel or Aluminum plates

Barnett aluminum basket with the steel inserts can run Steel or Aluminum plates.

[koko64]

I'm running a Vee Two lightened steel basket, Vee Two light alloy hub and I use Barnett plates which come with alloy friction plates. I have found that the fit of the plate tangs has as much to do with the wear as the combination of materials. More slop bashes the tangs against the slots in the basket. The plate tangs get peened over making for more slop and the basket can get chewed out as well.
The Vee Two hub and basket saved 900 grams combined and the Barnett plates saved 660 grams over my old style steel stock plates from 1995! A Barnett or Nichols alloy basket will save more again. I use a stock pressure plate I painted with red transmission paint out of a can. I use Barnett springs and retainers and stainless bolts which are all available from a number of companies that have been mentioned. My understanding is that the stock plates come with alloy friction plates. I thought that the stock baskets are now alloy and quite light. Check that out with your dealer and go buy a plate kit with alloy friction plates.
Give the sponsors a call. They will have what you need.