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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2008, 09:46:51 AM » |
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The dent removal from the backside "usually" craks the paint leading to paint failure and corrosion. Look up Wurth, a Euro company that used to sell a hot glue on option that worked very well for hail damage and dents. I had very good results with it. Be paitent and work slow. Or just pull it off and send it to ducpainter.
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2008, 01:20:38 PM » |
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The dent removal from the backside "usually" craks the paint leading to paint failure and corrosion. Look up Wurth, a Euro company that used to sell a hot glue on option that worked very well for hail damage and dents. I had very good results with it. Be paitent and work slow. Or just pull it off and send it to ducpainter. I've been reading about the glue method... and it seems to work, but it wont remove the dent 100 percent. So, I've decided to wait til tomorrow and have a local guy do PDR on it and get it gone. I think that I may be able to get a deal since it is not such a big dent. maybe 70 bucks... Oh... i tried the dry ice and the compressed air upside down to compress the metal.. it doesn't work..
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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2008, 05:55:14 PM » |
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That video was great I had not seen the procedure before. very cool. that being said I have sealed ducati tanks and I have sealed japanese bike tanks, there is a big difference in the thickness of the metal.
acid etch a ducati tank and you can leave the acid in overnight without a problem, try that with a japanese tank and you will have a watering can.
I have heard good things about the paintless dent removal but no one I could find was interested in trying.
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2008, 06:31:04 PM » |
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A friend just worked on the husband's Yahama Warrior tank with the glue kit dent removal. Drag style handlebars dented his metal tank. Friend pulled most of it out. Still a couple of ripples, but looks better than what was there. It does require a lot of detail oriented patience. Understanding the perfect place to pull also helps in popping it out successfully. Paint is flexible, but once cracked - forget it.
That video was pretty cool. never saw a system like that before. Wonder if the tool has limited ability to reach the dent. Not a true test of repairing every dent - dent was tiny and in an easily repairable spot.
Go with a professional if you want 100%. Our friend charged nothing, and husband has a new paint scheme forming in his head - so how could we lose??
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2008, 06:55:29 PM » |
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That video was great I had not seen the procedure before. very cool. that being said I have sealed ducati tanks and I have sealed japanese bike tanks, there is a big difference in the thickness of the metal.
acid etch a ducati tank and you can leave the acid in overnight without a problem, try that with a japanese tank and you will have a watering can.
I have heard good things about the paintless dent removal but no one I could find was interested in trying.
+2 off to ducpainter!
I will find out this week if they can do the PDR you saw on the video on my Tank. From what you are saying, then the ducati tank will be harder to do than the suzuki on the video. I will update this information after I talk to the PDR doctor.
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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2008, 09:54:47 AM » |
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It's just personality, don't worry about it. I've got one of those, and I've got one further back and lower where I used my knee to save a lowside by riding motocross style and having my knee slam into the tank ~
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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2008, 10:00:21 AM » |
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The metal used for the tanks on our bikes is pretty thick compared to the sheetmetal found on cars. I have tried two different PDR guys ( some of the best around ) with no success. If they try to pull the dent from the outside, there is a very good chance it will just pull the paint off instead. Ask me how I know. I am suprised Ducpainter hasn't chimed in on this one yet.
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2008, 10:39:12 AM » |
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Deweey mentioned dry ice. I remember a friend who had once told me that he had read where you leave your vehicle ( in this case your bike ) in direct sunlight on a hot day and when the dent has gotten very hot place a piece of dry ice on it and the dent is suppose to pop back out. I think you are suppose to rub the ice across the dent now that I think about it. You might even try regular ice , an ice cube and see if that has any effect before you go running after dry ice.I don't think it will hurt the paint but I have never tried it. It would be a cheap an easy fixif it works.
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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2008, 11:22:24 AM » |
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Deweey mentioned dry ice. I remember a friend who had once told me that he had read where you leave your vehicle ( in this case your bike ) in direct sunlight on a hot day and when the dent has gotten very hot place a piece of dry ice on it and the dent is suppose to pop back out. I think you are suppose to rub the ice across the dent now that I think about it. You might even try regular ice , an ice cube and see if that has any effect before you go running after dry ice.I don't think it will hurt the paint but I have never tried it. It would be a cheap an easy fixif it works.
I was going to mention that... Shock cooling will have a better effect. If it isnt a really hot day, maybe even try heating the tank with a blow dryer before applying the dry ice.
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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2008, 11:47:41 AM » |
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Thanks guys! I will give it a shot . I tried it without heating the tank first and it didnt work. I will park the bike outsidefor an hour.(90' here) then do the dry ice. I'll update on this later!
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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2008, 12:16:31 PM » |
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Thanks guys! I will give it a shot . I tried it without heating the tank first and it didnt work. I will park the bike outsidefor an hour.(90' here) then do the dry ice. I'll update on this later!
crossing fingers for ya!
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« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2008, 12:28:45 PM » |
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Sometimes I just find a real cool decal and put it over a boo boo !
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« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2008, 04:18:33 PM » |
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you know, back in my moto days i used to hear about putting the tank in a freezer! no kidding. i don't know if it worked or not, because at the time no one would let me put the tank to my ATC 200x in their freezer the ron
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« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2008, 04:36:41 PM » |
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I do not know of any monster tanks that are coated from the factory.
I have coated a few but none stock that I can think of.
it is easy to tell just remove the cap and look at the inside sides of the tank. On the few ducati's that are coated it is a black coating. good luck
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« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2008, 06:21:33 PM » |
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I can't say I've ever seen the PDR thing done on a bike tank but I've had it done on my car. (Two week old Acura got a nice big door ding while parked at the gym...thanks anonymous person!!) It was absolutely amazing to see this guy work. Just like in the video. I would have never believed it if I hadn't seen it myself. Best $80 I ever spent. But I think it really depends on the skill of the technician.
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