2010 MotoGP Round 13: Aragon (Spoilers! Race: 5am/8am 9/19)

[desmoquattro]

I thought Hayden did a great job.  He passed Lorenzo when it mattered and made it stick...with what was a fairly aggressive pass. If him and Lorenzo would have been mixing it up earlier, then it is likely that Spies and Dovi would have caught them, turning a 2-way battle into a 4-way one. Waiting until the end was a good move IMO.

I don't know about second...Perdrobot was flying and gapped Lorenzo and Hayden. He almost caught Stoner, but Stoner was riding the wheels off that thing trying to stay ahead. He gapped Pedro at the end, but I think part of that might have been Pedro accepting second to keep it on 2 wheels.

Might also have been Pedro shagging the tires. Someone was saying the Ducs with their new setup were easier on the tires around Aragon.

[ducpainter]

How can you not scream at the TV when you see a guy tip-toeing around the track. That bike was setup to be pushing for 2nd, but he got all caught up behind Lorenzo.

Tiptoeing?  Seriously? 

Might also have been Pedro shagging the tires. Someone was saying the Ducs with their new setup were easier on the tires around Aragon.

Pedrosa mentioned in the post race that the Honda used tires pretty fast there.

[desmoquattro]

Pedrosa mentioned in the post race that the Honda used tires pretty fast there.

Sure...blame the bike

Stoner will fit in nicely there

[duccarlos]

Tiptoeing?  Seriously? 

You don't agree that he has to be more aggressive? He has the skills to be up there and he had a faster bike. He caught up to Lorenzo and sat there for at least 8 laps before making his move.

[ducpainter]

You don't agree that he has to be more aggressive? He has the skills to be up there and he had a faster bike. He caught up to Lorenzo and sat there for at least 8 laps before making his move.

I think he did a good job.

Even a faster bike doesn't make someone like Lorenzo easy to pass.

Nicky obviously felt he didn't have the lap times to pull away from Jorge and if he made the move too early he'd have to do the work all over, or even lose the podium if Lorenzo moved on him in the last corner.

[Triple J]

Nicky obviously felt he didn't have the lap times to pull away from Jorge and if he made the move too early he'd have to do the work all over, or even lose the podium if Lorenzo moved on him in the last corner.

Plus, watch the cam from Lorenzo's bike looking back at Hayden. A turn or two before he passed Lorenzo, Hayden almost lost it...looked like he momentarily lost the front end.

I don't think he was tiptoeing.

[Spidey]

Finally a decent race to watch.  Whew.  That said, watching the lightest guy on the track on the fastest bike pass the slowest bike on the track down a straightaway isn't that fun. 

The Ben is an absolute DEMON on the brakes.  He talked about it last year, but it was pretty epic to watch.  I woulda liked to see him stay in touch with Nicky and George.  Man, looking at the top speeds lap by lap, his bike was the suck.

Did anyone catch Stoner lose the front and then pick it up when showed that one slow speed HD pass?  He's a lunatic.  He does that on virtually every turn.

Nicky's pass was excellent.  I don't entirely buy Jorge's excuse that he didn't fight back because of the championship.  Nicky just parked it in front of him on the racing line and didn't give him an option.  Awesome.  To be sure, if Jorge coulda fought back, he might have decided not to.  But Nicky didn't give him the chance.

I didn't see RDP's crash, but the still pic I saw of if looked G-narly.  Apparently, he's alright.

Stoner's stand up was the best I've seen since Hopper left GP and started racing minibikes again. 

Honda's gonna have quite a package of riders next year with both Douchebot and Stoner.

[fastwin]

I think he did a good job.

Even a faster bike doesn't make someone like Lorenzo easy to pass.

Nicky obviously felt he didn't have the lap times to pull away from Jorge and if he made the move too early he'd have to do the work all over, or even lose the podium if Lorenzo moved on him in the last corner.

I tend to agree. Sitting on Jorge until the end was good race craft. Just sit and follow and let Jorge burn up his tires trying to stay away. Nicky's not dumb. I think he knew that if he passed early that would only give Jorge many chances to return the favor. Like Nicky said, "No more fourths!" I think it was well executed. [moto]

[duccarlos]

Honda's gonna have quite a package of riders next year with both Douchebot and Stoner.

On paper, that should be the team to beat.

[gm2]

5 days later, finally watched this thing... wow!  great race!

i don't think nick was tip toeing in the least.  awesome move at the right place.

...and how are people confused when the race was?  nevermind it's in the thread title and first post, look at the schedule.  set up your dvr for series or keywords, not times.

that 2 laps to go outbraking move by ben on the back straight... daaamn.  i think some aussie guy taught him to brake that deep.

[Speeddog]

Has anyone seen any footage of Dovi decking it?

Curious what happened....

[ducpainter]

Has anyone seen any footage of Dovi decking it?

Curious what happened....

Didn't see it but he claims he highsided in the last corner trying to make a move on Ben in a motogp interview.

[Spidey]

Here ya go, Nick. 

Mini Moto High Side Crash

[gm2]

i'm still annoyed by this.. 

if you spend an entire race parked behind someone only to pass them in the last or next to last corner, esp if you take the last podium spot doing it, that's not lack of aggression.  that's racecraft.  you also really wear the guy down mentally by being within striking distance lap after lap after lap.. valentino practically invented that tactic.

and nicky's no dummy.  he knows that if he passes jorge and then gives him a couple laps to do something about it, he's probably going to. 

[ducpainter]

i'm still annoyed by this.. 

if you spend an entire race parked behind someone only to pass them in the last or next to last corner, esp if you take the last podium spot doing it, that's not lack of aggression.  that's racecraft.  you also really wear the guy down mentally by being within striking distance lap after lap after lap.. valentino practically invented that tactic.

and nicky's no dummy.  he knows that if he passes jorge and then gives him a couple laps to do something about it, he's probably going to. 

calm down bro...

they're not picking on your Ben.