696 DP ecu in M796 good or bad ?

Started by jfgducat, September 27, 2010, 10:01:03 PM

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jfgducat

so before i traded my 696 i bought my termi's
now I'm stuck with the DP ecu for the 696.

i was wondering what are my options?

is it OK to run the 696 ecu with the 796 ones?

ungeheuer

Quote from: jfgducat on September 27, 2010, 10:01:03 PM.....is it OK to run the 696 ecu with the 796 ones?
um....  are you asking.... if its alright... to fit your DP696 ECU....  to your 796??   Coz that'd be a huge  [thumbsdown]

Although it would be fun to watch  [popcorn].
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Mojo S2R

Scoot over.  I want to see this too.   [popcorn]

btw - what the heck is  [thumbsdown].  Nevermind just found out it's thumbsdown.  Just not as obvious as the thumbsup emoticon to me.

Raux

no it won't fit,

BUT i bet a lot fo people running no-termi's would be interested in buying it. as long as it's priced less than the current reflash solutions.

ungeheuer

It wont fit  ??? ??  I'm pretty sure it will fit  [thumbsup].

It just wont work.  Very much.  At all  [thumbsdown].   
Hell, maybe I'm wrong... it might do something.... but I doubt any good would come of it [popcorn].

It would be interesting to know if it could be reflashed as an M796 ECU though.......   If it were mine, I'd be investigating that possibility.... 






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jfgducat

ok

i will be returning my 696 dp ecu and waiting on my 796 dp ecu they wont be out until a month or so.


its never been used so there just swapping it.


Amlethae

For the sake of boredom and killing some time before work, I'll make a prediction:

Assuming that the 796 doesn't reject the 696 ECU like a liver transplant from an alcoholic, the mapping would (in my guestimation) make the 796 run decisively lean.  The fueling map for the 696 (DP or not) would be telling the injectors to fire at a rate which aims for a 14.7 (or other) AFR based on a smaller cylinder size than the 796 engine.  Because the displacement is different, the injectors wouldn't be firing enough fuel into the cylinder vs the air being sucked in.  The O2 sensors MIGHT correct the fueling map enough to reach the desired AFRs but that depends on programmed tolerances -- which at the moment we have not been able to view the ECU programming.  And even if they did, they would only do so in closed loop; when you get to open loop you're talking serious damage potential.  So... dangerous at best even if it takes it.   
First bike (ever): 2008 Monster 696 [now it's the wife's]
Lost to the front end of a GMC truck: 2010 Monster 1100s w/ABS [miss it!]
Currently Riding: 2013 Streetfighter 848

renanmedeiros

If the Kit is in good shape you already have one buyer! Im looking for the termi full exhaust + filter + ecu. Anyone?

ChrisH

The ecu's are physically different between the 2 as far as I have seen in pictures, so not sure if it would even plug in.
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junior varsity

please do not put the wrong ecu in a bike.

sell that sucka on eBay. lots of folks are interested in a genuine DP ecu over a reflashed one.