2010 MotoGP Round 14-Motegi (SPOILERS!)

[duccarlos]

"don't put your teammate at risk" is hardly a team order.

Would Lorenzo get the same "order"? It was best said earlier, he could have just let Rossi go. He had no way to fight for second. His ego was hurt and he wanted to make a point.

[Blackout]

You don't want to make the beast with two backs with the doctor.
Valentino Rossi - Lorenzo - Guido Meda - Motegi 2010.mp4

[duccarlos]

That announcer was definitely german.

[Jester]

heheheh

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/163911/1/yamaha_rossi_was_too_aggressive.html

I wonder if Rossi told him to suck it.  Telling competitive riders that they are "too aggressive" and to lay off other same manufacturer riders is lame.  If there aren't direct team orders, I don't see this little conversation changing anything.  If Rossi has the same position in Sepang, I think he'll stick it under Lorenzo's fairing once again.  Jorge would do the same thing, he just didn't happen to come out on top.

[Speeddog]

Magic 8-ball says Rossi is *definitely* not going to test the Duc at Valencia. 

Probably one of the few cases where Rossi didn't think it through.

[ducpainter]

Or maybe he'll do it again and get fired.

[Stinky Wizzleteats]

Hey Stinkie.."Visit Spain" must be a GP sponsor this year.  It seems like they were all over Indy too, no?!

I didn't see the Indy race. Must be a Dorna thing. 

[Rameses]

Magic 8-ball says Rossi is *definitely* not going to test the Duc at Valencia. 

Probably one of the few cases where Rossi didn't think it through.

I thought the testing at Valencia was already out b/c Rossi was going to have surgery on his shoulder.   

[ducpainter]

I thought the testing at Valencia was already out b/c Rossi was going to have surgery on his shoulder.   

I read somewhere where he said he'd wait till after testing because his recovery would be 2 months and he'd still have time.

Like Nick said...he didn't do his chances of Yamaha letting him test any favors.

[Rameses]

I read somewhere where he said he'd wait till after testing because his recovery would be 2 months and he'd still have time.

Like Nick said...he didn't do his chances of Yamaha letting him test any favors.

Yeah, that's for sure.


For some reason I was thinking I'd seen that he was going to skip the last two races in order to have the surgery early so he could make sure he had time to recover.  Not sure what I'm thinking of.  



eta: I knew I wasn't crazy.  I can't find the article I read before, but this one's similar.  I'm not sure why, but I thought it was already a done deal, not that he was just considering it.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/163537/1/gardner_tells_rossi_go_for_surgery_now.html

[zooom]

heheheh

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/163911/1/yamaha_rossi_was_too_aggressive.html

...“There is no implication of wrongdoing [by Rossi], otherwise Race Direction would have intervened....

now...that being said...if Jorge banged fairings with Rossi and situations were reversed...I think we'd be hearing different things...

I also think that if it were any rider against "not their own teamate"...we wouldn't be hearing much of a whince at all about this whole thing....

[El Matador]

I listened to it in Spanish...what a whinger.  

Ok, so I finally read the transcripts. Talk about you guys playing something up. The dude basically says that he feels that Rossi's moves were a little on the limit and threatens that next time he's gonna pay him with the same coin. I see no whining?  

"The show is great for the people to enjoy and the business of motorcycle racing, it's fantastic, but when you are a rider who is on a MotoGP bike which gets up to 300 km/h in the straight and 180-200 km/h in the corners and you are feeling the other rider touch you it's not a great feeling or a good emotion because you know you are putting your life at risk," said Lorenzo in the attached video interview. "The three or four moves I made on Valentino I felt were correct and fair. On the other hand his moves were legal but on the limit, from my point of view. We have seen the way he likes to fight, it happened before with Gibernau, then with Stoner, and now with me. Maybe in the future his rivals will get a little bit mad and we will act like he usually does!"

I'm the first one to say that someone is acting like a little pregnant dog, even riders I support. Hell, Stoner lost me as a fan because of all his complaining; but I really don't see any whining on this one. Stoner would still be crying about it. And you guys seem to forget the hissy fit Rossi threw a couple of years back about Elias.



To the guys that are complaining about the 125 stuff. There is a difference between rubbing fairings at 80 - 120mph and doing it at 160-200 mph. I think that probably has something to do with it.

And, not to burst anyone's OMG ROSSI FTW LOL moment, but Rossi was riding on an upgraded shiny new engine while Lorenzo was on the oldest and most tired engine he's raced on. IIRC the commentators were saying that Rossi's straight line speed was 6kph faster than Lorenzo's, that's not inconsequential.

...“There is no implication of wrongdoing [by Rossi], otherwise Race Direction would have intervened....

now...that being said...if Jorge banged fairings with Rossi and situations were reversed...I think we'd be hearing different things...

I also think that if it were any rider against "not their own teamate"...we wouldn't be hearing much of a whince at all about this whole thing....

Agreed.

I actually think the whole thing was awesome, regardless of outcome.

[El Matador]

I wonder if Rossi told him to suck it.  Telling competitive riders that they are "too aggressive" and to lay off other same manufacturer riders is lame.  If there aren't direct team orders, I don't see this little conversation changing anything.  If Rossi has the same position in Sepang, I think he'll stick it under Lorenzo's fairing once again.  Jorge would do the same thing, he just didn't happen to come out on top.

Damn straight. I certainly hope he does 

[ducpainter]

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And, not to burst anyone's OMG ROSSI FTW LOL moment, but Rossi was riding on an upgraded shiny new engine while Lorenzo was on the oldest and most tired engine he's raced on. IIRC the commentators were saying that Rossi's straight line speed was 6kph faster than Lorenzo's, that's not inconsequential.


<snip>

That was his choice.

[El Matador]

That was his choice.

Not really. He only has on engine left. It would've been pretty stupid to use it up at Motegi. That's like saying "Shooting yourself in the crotch is your choice", yes, technically it is, but no one is gonna do it.