Fork into very tight triples - suggestions

Started by junior varsity, October 14, 2010, 12:11:29 PM

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junior varsity

Got some 53/53 bored triples to put some SBK forks in.

I have all the nuts, bolts, and whatnot, but here's the issue:

In a test fitting, the triples were very tight, nearly impossible to get the forks into the lower triple, even just a small amount. I whipped out trusty calipers to inspect hole diameter, sure enough: 53. Right at 53.

I thought, "nbd, I'll use a wedge in the pinch bolt gap to relieve some pressure." - Tried it, not enough to make a difference.

What other methods are there to fit forks into triples without scratching the F@{% out of the forks?

Are there issues with heating the triple clamp?

I can't help but think that any lube would be a poor idea.

corey

my thought was wedge-it as well... not sure what else you could try... ???
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junior varsity

Thinking about brake cylinder hone to remove a fractional amount of material.

This is the second triple clamp setup I was going to do today. I got up early and put the DucShop 30mm triples on the 748/900 project bike with 1098 forks. It was a breeze (and they were not purpose built for this application).

The 53mm triples are purpose built for the Monster, and may have been bored just ever so slightly to closely / looks like nearly an interference fit.

battlecry


corey

yea, i say give it a whirl. just do a little bit at a time.
it IS a clamp, so if you go a little too far, you should still be fine.
When all the land lays in ruin... And burnination has forsaken the countryside... Only one guy will remain... My money's on...

junior varsity

That's definitely the plan. I first considered there may have been simply a rough spot or something similar, so I grabbed the simichrome, and polished the inner diameter of the lower triples. They look like mirrors after very little work. Still no dice.

Speeddog

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>>>Talk to the triples vendor.

+ 1

Don't do anything further to those holes yourself.
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junior varsity

Noted.

Left message, will revisit later.


In other news, those Ducshop 30mm triples for the SBK project look great. They have adjustable eccentric steering stops for use with 848 and 1098.

I also enjoy how much easier it is to work with the new style steering head assemblies, the stem nut, etc. Much simpler than the eccentric wrench assembly for the pre-02 frames.

junior varsity

in case i was blaming triples for something unrelated, i tried a different set of SBK forks.

I am going to use 748 showa with ohlins internals. 53/53

I grabbed another set of forks in the garage from an 848 (also showa, also 53/53) - but still no dice.

Howie

Since you work at a dealer find a stock superbike triple and measure it on both axis.  Is the bore really 53mm or 53mm plus a smidgen?  Is the bore a little oval?

Speeddog

I would imagine the OEM stuff is slightly undersize on the fork diameter, and slightly oversize on the triple.
That's the metric way of doing shaft fits.

Like 52.9mm and 53.1mm.
Or 52.95 and 53.05...

I've had forks in the past that needed the triples wedged to get things assembled/disassembled.

I haven't had to wedge any (undamaged) Duc fork stuff.
It all fits together just the way it's supposed to.
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suzyj

I think the hone is the right idea.  When I measured my forks, they were 52.9, so I bored the triple to 53.0.

It's a good idea to carefully de-burr them, too, to ensure you don't scratch your forks.


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junior varsity

Talked with the Costas, they shoot for 53,003, and I figure it might be a smidge under.

I need better calipers.