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Re: Rossi to test the Ducati at Valencia
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November 12, 2010, 06:55:00 AM »
Quote from: OT on November 11, 2010, 05:58:11 PM
Rossi's probably playing head-games again....
If they're all using the same tires, why are the Duc's not heating up as fast as the others' -- can't they redirect the exhaust over the tire to help? Maybe that's what the fins are for....
redirect exhaust heat to the front tire?
Different chassis will weight/stress the tires differently. Of course different bikes will wear the tires differently; these are known characteristics of some of them. The D16 doesn't heat the front readily. The BMW superbike destroys it's tires halfway through most races. We could go on.
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Re: Rossi to test the Ducati at Valencia
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Quote from: swampduc on November 12, 2010, 06:55:00 AM
redirect exhaust heat to the front tire?
pretty sure that was a joke.
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Re: Rossi to test the Ducati at Valencia
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Quote from: Triple J on November 12, 2010, 08:10:40 AM
pretty sure that was a joke.
aaaand I'm tarded, sorry
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Quote from: swampduc on November 12, 2010, 04:37:27 PM
aaaand I'm tarded, sorry
Don't be too hard on yourself....
well, it was 99% tongue-in-cheek but a teensy-weensy bit serious, too.....
I'm no expert, but tires heat up from rolling on the pavement, so is it mostly a weight-distribution effect; a suspension-effect; a rider-induced effect, or all of the above?
Was Rossi surprised with the performance - as one would think a bike's front-end behavior wouild be common knowledge around the pits/paddock?
Does this issue reflect (badly) in some way on Suppo's leadership/direction at Ducati?
If largely weight distribution, then that sounds like an expensive issue to ovecome...
Anybody wanna take a stab at these?
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Re: Rossi to test the Ducati at Valencia
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Quote from: OT on November 14, 2010, 08:06:24 AM
Does this issue reflect (badly) in some way on Suppo's leadership/direction at Ducati?
Anybody wanna take a stab at these?
you know suppo has been at HRC for over a year, right?
otherwise, they have a chassis problem. i'm sure that Preziosi/JB/Rossi will get it figured out.
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Quote from: gm2 on November 14, 2010, 09:51:14 AM
you know suppo has been at HRC for over a year, right?
otherwise, they have a chassis problem. i'm sure that Preziosi/JB/Rossi will get it figured out.
you've got more faith than I do. I guess with the far-reduced testing of today's gp, I think it'll take longer to have the transformative effect that rossi had on the yamaha.
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Quote from: swampduc on November 14, 2010, 10:15:42 AM
you've got more faith than I do. I guess with the far-reduced testing of today's gp, I think it'll take longer to have the transformative effect that rossi had on the yamaha.
between the nsr500, rc211v, and yzr-m1, i have confidence that burgess has a pretty comprehensive notebook of "what works".
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Re: Rossi to test the Ducati at Valencia
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Yeah, you arent just getting Rossi the rider. Youre getting his experience and that of his team he brings along
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Re: Rossi to test the Ducati at Valencia
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Quote from: derby on November 14, 2010, 03:44:46 PM
between the nsr500, rc211v, and yzr-m1, i have confidence that burgess has a pretty comprehensive notebook of "what works".
More a matter of how quick, and efficiently they can implement these changes, alongside a rather restrictive testing cycle
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Quote from: mattc7 on November 15, 2010, 07:10:51 AM
More a matter of how quick, and efficiently they can implement these changes, alongside a rather restrictive testing cycle
well...on motors, yes, it is restrictive...if JB and VR can have the data conveyed the way they want and have the test mules that are not restricted ( like how Vitto used to do before taking over the team from Suppo) to develop the other parts of the bike for to make that front end more concise and stabil...then you can certainly see those parts come into being used in the race season...
personally, I think the front end issue probably has something to do with the carbon fibre frame and it's design....but I am not an engineer and don't have a real basis for that other than just the fact that these front end problems didn't seem to be anywhere near as prevelant until they started going to the carbon fiber framework...at least in terms of what you did and didn't hear about...
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Re: Rossi to test the Ducati at Valencia
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http://motomatters.com/news/2010/11/18/marco_melandri_i_had_the_same_problems_a.html
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Re: Rossi to test the Ducati at Valencia
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http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2010/11/burgess-chill-people-rossi-will-be-fast-on-the-ducati/#more-8659
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Quote from: gm2 on November 14, 2010, 09:51:14 AM
you know suppo has been at HRC for over a year, right?
This year's (2010) bike was designed over a year ago....like in 2008/2009 wasn't it?
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Re: Rossi to test the Ducati at Valencia
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Quote from: OT on November 18, 2010, 06:54:06 PM
This year's (2010) bike was designed over a year ago....like in 2008/2009 wasn't it?
I would consider the 2010 bike an evolution of the 2009 cross-plane crank bike.
So some parts might be very similar to parts designed in '08.
But they haven't sent me CAD files yet, so YMMV.
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Re: Rossi to test the Ducati at Valencia
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Ah, another reason I wish I spoke Italian!
Valentino Rossi & Ducati test__VIDEO INEDITI
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