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ducatiz

October 20, 2010, 11:32:56 AM
http://green.autoblog.com/2010/10/19/study-diesel-will-emerge-as-a-leading-clean-fuel-over-the-next/

Hybrids suck.  Diesel rules.

I am afraid of diesel hybrids though, but I think in the long run when people start paying repair bills on their 8-10 year old hybrids that will be the end of them. 
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October 20, 2010, 12:00:13 PM
Full circle... if I remember correctly Diesel designed his original engines to run on vege oils, not petroleum.

Hybrids are a neat idea... but right now they get you in the production (energy) costs. 113 million btus to get a prius on the road.
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October 20, 2010, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: yuu on October 20, 2010, 12:00:13 PM
Full circle... if I remember correctly Diesel designed his original engines to run on vege oils, not petroleum.

Hybrids are a neat idea... but right now they get you in the production (energy) costs. 113 million btus to get a prius on the road.

I'm pretty sure they were supposed to run on Hemp Oil but we all know how that worked out.
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October 20, 2010, 12:42:43 PM
Quote from: yuu on October 20, 2010, 12:00:13 PM
Full circle... if I remember correctly Diesel designed his original engines to run on vege oils, not petroleum.

Hybrids are a neat idea... but right now they get you in the production (energy) costs. 113 million btus to get a prius on the road.

Quote from: metallimonster on October 20, 2010, 12:36:43 PM
I'm pretty sure they were supposed to run on Hemp Oil but we all know how that worked out.

Peanuts.  Diesel used peanut oil.  Hemp oil would work fine, as would pine oil, rapeseed, or human fat.
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#4
October 20, 2010, 12:54:41 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on October 20, 2010, 12:42:43 PM
....or human fat.

Hmmm.

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October 20, 2010, 01:00:35 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on October 20, 2010, 12:42:43 PM
or human fat.


I know how to solve the obesity problem in the US.

Stop being fat or be used as fuel.  ;D
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October 20, 2010, 01:12:06 PM
Hells, yes. 

Now who's gonna help me retrofit my Volvo?  [evil]
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October 20, 2010, 01:34:37 PM
Liposuction would be free.

Exhaust would smell like ham.
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October 20, 2010, 01:36:06 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on October 20, 2010, 01:34:37 PM
Liposuction would be free.

Exhaust would smell like ham.

Everyone wins!!

free liposuction and it would smell like delicious ham EVERYWHERE.
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October 20, 2010, 01:36:44 PM
You mean clean fuel though, right?  That article just talks about petroleum diesel becoming more popular, not diesel cars burning more bio-fuel.  The EROI on biodiesel isn't quite high enough yet to make that feasible, as much as I would like that to happen.  It is if it is free (WVO), but not if you have to buy it.


Quote from: yuu on October 20, 2010, 12:00:13 PM
Hybrids are a neat idea... but right now they get you in the production (energy) costs. 113 million btus to get a prius on the road.

Is that a lot?  It takes 200M BTUs to get a Hummer on the road.
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October 20, 2010, 01:53:32 PM
A Hummer isn't a typical vehicle moreover, they are defunct.
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#11
October 20, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
I guess my point was 113M BTUs is an arbitrary value if there is no context - is that good or bad?  How does that compare to other cars?  And ultimately, if we are counting tons of carbon, BTUs, or dollars, how does the Prius or whatever car, diesel or gas compare?

Anyways, as you were.  Back to your regularly scheduled diesel car thread programming.

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October 20, 2010, 02:29:55 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on October 20, 2010, 01:34:37 PM
Liposuction would be free.

Exhaust would smell like ham bacon.
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on October 20, 2010, 01:36:06 PM
Everyone wins!!

free liposuction and it would smell like delicious ham bacon EVERYWHERE.

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October 20, 2010, 02:33:01 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on October 20, 2010, 12:42:43 PM
Peanuts.  Diesel used peanut oil.  Hemp oil would work fine, as would pine oil, rapeseed, or human fat.

So that's why used french fry oil works?

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October 20, 2010, 02:48:40 PM
The restaurant owners around here have a co-op of sorts and pool there veggie oil for use in their diesel vehicles.

One local mechanic has made a fairly lucrative side business doing conversions...tank and heater install etc.
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