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Started by MendoDave, October 25, 2010, 03:42:53 PM

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MendoDave

October 25, 2010, 03:42:53 PM Last Edit: October 25, 2010, 03:58:01 PM by D Paoli
The heater core removal is actually the easy part. Removing the Dash to gain access is completely unacceptable.





1996 GMC Jimmy.

Does this seem reasonable to you?
I was starting to warm up to the newer GM products but my guess is they still do screwy stuff like this.

On the Mercedes I would have to remove the glovebox, and then I think a vent duct, and then remove the cover where the heatercore is at. That would take like less than 10 minutes.

ducpainter

#1
October 25, 2010, 03:55:39 PM
How many cars built in the last 20 years do you think are any easier?
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MendoDave

#2
October 25, 2010, 03:59:50 PM
I just edited above. I'm not sure if it was easier, but my 91 S10 didn't require removal of the dash. But yes is too was a PITA

1KDS

#3
October 25, 2010, 04:34:56 PM
my buddie's about to do this in his S-10, I'm staying the F away that day
Every bike I've ever owned.

Speeddog

#4
October 25, 2010, 04:40:51 PM
My '80 Honda Civic was the same, complete dash removal.

I got to do it twice, as I fell for the ruse of getting the first heater core repaired.  [bang]
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ducpainter

#5
October 25, 2010, 04:48:48 PM
Quote from: D Paoli on October 25, 2010, 03:59:50 PM
I just edited above. I'm not sure if it was easier, but my 91 S10 didn't require removal of the dash. But yes is too was a PITA
There was a time where you pulled the two hoses...

removed a small cover...

and the core was right there.

Good thing we made progress. [thumbsup]


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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


rgramjet

#6
October 25, 2010, 05:08:38 PM
84 Mustang SVO looked about the same except less space to work in......
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#7
October 25, 2010, 06:02:41 PM
Most everything nowadays requires dash removal. 
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#8
October 25, 2010, 08:26:16 PM
Quote from: humorless dp on October 25, 2010, 04:48:48 PM
There was a time where you pulled the two hoses...

removed a small cover...

and the core was right there.

Good thing we made progress. [thumbsup]

That's how my old F-250 was, half hour job
Every bike I've ever owned.

Rameses

#9
October 25, 2010, 08:49:19 PM


I bet I could change the one in my Jeep in 5 minutes.

;D

ungeheuer

#10
October 26, 2010, 03:10:57 AM
Quote from: D Paoli on October 25, 2010, 03:42:53 PM
Removing the Dash to gain access is completely unacceptable.



Not to mention that they installed the steering wheel on the passenger's side of the vehicle.... [bang] 
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ducpainter

#11
October 26, 2010, 03:11:54 AM
Quote from: ungeheuer on October 26, 2010, 03:10:57 AM
Not to mention that they installed the steering wheel on the passenger's side of the vehicle.... [bang] 
You're standing on your head.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Turf

#12
October 26, 2010, 03:34:38 AM
my 66 tempest custom you can just stick your head under the dash and remove anything you want

YAY for CAD designed cars, we now realize how much crap can be shove behind and around other things making it impossible to work on before it's even built.

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ungeheuer

#13
October 26, 2010, 03:36:12 AM
Seems like a random error... coz GM got this one correct...  





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DW

#14
October 26, 2010, 04:04:34 AM
Quote from: Rameses on October 25, 2010, 08:49:19 PM

I bet I could change the one in my Jeep in 5 minutes.

;D


My '99 Cherokee had to have the front seats, center console, steering column, dash, AC lines disconnected and heater box removed to do the same job. I was not pleased.
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