New Diavel Video

[muskrat]

I think you're onto something Raux.  Bring back the 999 

[Howley]

That video make the beast with two backsing sucked. I sure hope they didn't pay someone to make that.

[junior varsity]

there are two factors that really turn me off on the bike the more i look at it...

price. of course a 848 version around 4k less would alleviate that

rear end. the lack of anything after the passenger seat is uncomfortable for the wife. she won't like it. it's too abbreviated. kinda like the old Caddies with the cut trunks.


I really think the Ducati designers are on crack though.
they haven't created a smooth flowing complete looking bike since the SBK replaced the 999 (and IMO the 999 was a complete smooth bike, just not in the vein of the 916). I'm kinda scared what they'll dream up on the next gen SBK.

I love my bike...
but...
Monster (continuity in design- split cast frame)
MTS (horrible front end and no flow to front sides, wierd exhausts - split  cast frame)
Diavel (bulldog ugly looks- split cast frame)
HM (derivative style that added too much 'weight' to the look )

Ducati is hitting homeruns due to marketing and motors, but the style is lacking passion.

Motors
150hp now 164 hp 11 deg Testastretta... 4 riding modes, etc. cool update to the 4v
100hp now for 2v Monster... the target of sooo many aftermarket builds

marketing
MTS vs GS... hit the field winner with as much HP and tech as possible
Diavel... remains to be seen, but this is a real contender to the VMax-VRod scene
Monster... fresh update with much improved out of the box handling
HM... Ducati is making a motard?!

honestly, Ducati will continue to grow and that's great. I hope it helps some of those dealers in trouble as well. Though the engineers are hitting on all cylinders, Ducati really needs to get some new Industrial Designers for the style of the bikes.

form following function - split frame on d16s, migrating towards no frame at all.  its about go more than show.

[Raux]

form following function - split frame on d16s, migrating towards no frame at all.  its about go more than show.

kinda my point though. i'd rather have a complete design that half and half.

[junior varsity]

but the design is half and half, you want it both steel? that would be heavier with no advantage

[Raux]

not really what I mean.

more along the lines of

the tubular steel mainframe with a tubular steel or aluminum subframe

or a cast composite mainframe with a cast composite subframe

[Privateer]

I like it. 

Perhaps the perception that the rider is muscling it are those wide handlebars?

It's one of the few bikes I'll try to demo ride when it comes around.

[junior varsity]

that and he's a teensy weensy eye-talian.

[fastwin]

This thread makes me sleepy. All I really want is a KTM 690 SMC... this thread does not compute.

[TresGatos]

I must say that the mirrors are attractive.

(insert sound of crickets)

I do like the Hyper mirrors.  I'll see the real thing this Thursday in Dallas, please look better in person

[zooom]

This thread makes me sleepy. All I really want is a KTM 690 SMC... this thread does not compute.

HAHHAHAHAHAAA...no you don't...you want a Husquavarna 610SMR...

[muskrat]

I stand corrected, it looks better in person than I thought but still needs a few mods 

[fastwin]

You mean the KTM 690 SMC? Well duh... mods! This is the KTM Supermoto thread... right? [moto]

[muskrat]

oh yeah.......